CII proposes husbands be allowed to ‘lightly beat’ defying wives

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saw this currently trending on facebook

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1110571/name-protection-cii-bill-proposes-curbs-women/


ISLAMABAD: The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) has proposed its own women protection bill, recommending ‘a light beating’ for the wife if she defies the husband.

The 20-member CII is a constitutional body which gives recommendations to parliament regarding Islamic laws. However, parliament is not bound to consider its recommendations.

CII rules women’s protection law ‘un-Islamic’

The bill was drafted after the CII rejected Punjab’s controversial Protection of Women against Violence Act (PPWA) 2015 terming it un-Islamic. The CII will now forward its proposed bill to the Punjab Assembly.
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this isn't ISIS or the Taliban... it is a constitutional body of the Pakistani government that is supposed to advise lawmakers - they've advocated quashing a women's protection law as 'unIslamic' and have comically proposed their own one which allows for light beatings under circumstances...

background on the council

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Islamic_Ideology

The council has the following functions:[1]

To recommend laws conforming to Qur'an and Sunnah to the Parliament and Provincial Assemblies.
To advise the Parliament, Government of Pakistan, President of Pakistan, or Governor on any question referred to the Council as to whether a proposed law is or is not repugnant to the Injunctions of Islam.
To make recommendations to bring current laws into conformity with Islamic injunctions.
To compile guidance for the Parliament and Provincial Assemblies.
However, the Government can make a law before advice is furnished by the council. The council is also responsible for submitting an annual interim report, which is discussed in the Parliament and Provincial Assemblies within six months of its receipt.[1] Recently, the Council was strongly criticized in many traditionalist quarters for its recommendations on the procedure for khula. (See also Talaq (conflict)).
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though seemingly they've managed to upset conservatives/traditionalists by not taking the more hardline approach to divorce :eek:

this again is pretty worrying, we're not talking about fanatics here just people with slightly conservative Islamic views who have an official role in shaping policy in a developing country
 
It's Pakistan, what do you expect? You're talking about the country where female rape victims get stoned to death because, in the ****ed up minds of those backward savages, rape isn't rape, it's adultery.
 
Malevolence said:
It's Pakistan, what do you expect? You're talking about the country where female rape victims get stoned to death because, in the ****ed up minds of those backward savages, rape isn't rape, it's adultery.
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well more so in tribal areas, this is an official body that advises lawmakers which is a bit more worrying than some Taliban sympathizing tribal chief stoning some girl because they got pregnant outside of marriage after they were raped... not to lessen that sort of thing but you kind of expect it from backwards tribal types who you maybe hope will start progressing - what isn't good is the central govt/parliament potentially regressing
 
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Freddie1980 said:
Talk about the land of the barbarian...... It's amazing just how backwards some countries are.
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Yes, yet in our wonderful little part of the world, the stats i grew up with suggested that one in four households has domestic abuse in the UK.
So while we might critise this group of crazy *******s for their views, we can also do one hell of a lot better at home when it comes to violence in the home.

Lets deal with the problem at home, and let the madness be shown up internationally by good example.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Yes, yet in our wonderful little part of the world, the stats i grew up with suggested that one in four households has domestic abuse in the UK.
So while we might critise this group of crazy *******s for their views, we can also do one hell of a lot better at home when it comes to violence in the home.

Lets deal with the problem at home, and let the madness be shown up internationally by good example.
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TBH the first link is so poorly written I'm not sure whether to believe it, but, assuming that it is true...

There's a massive difference between what happens regardless of law and what is legally allowed.

Murder and theft aren't legal in England but still occur despite all attempts to stop it. Just because laws aren't upheld for various reasons, including the victim of crimes not feeling able to report them and prosecute their persecutor doesn't mean society and the law condones them.

That's very different to the law saying crimes (in the eyes of a sane human being) are not prosecutable.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Yes, yet in our wonderful little part of the world, the stats i grew up with suggested that one in four households has domestic abuse in the UK.
So while we might critise this group of crazy *******s for their views, we can also do one hell of a lot better at home when it comes to violence in the home.

Lets deal with the problem at home, and let the madness be shown up internationally by good example.
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Can you point to where in our laws it says that the Mrs can be expected to get a light beating for burning the toast?
 
Hey at least its progression! Maybe in 100 years it will only be a slight beating, then a light brushing and in 200 years they might have evolved enough to 1910 levels of British equality.
 
Columbo said:
Can you point to where in our laws it says that the Mrs can be expected to get a light beating for burning the toast?
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No, but what I can say, is when countries base their laws on book from 1200 years ago, there isn't going to be much room for negotiation and change. It'll be interpreted in whatever way they like, and enshrined in law and holy doctrine at the same time.

Backwards, yes. Savages, sometimes. But really, what on Earth was anyone expecting? It's Pakistan. You're more likely to marry your cousin than in Texas.
(and then bring her to the Uk ;))
 
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