Who's to blame for Harambe the Gorilla death?

[cadmunkey]

Gorilla > cow
Steak tastier than gorilla meat.

 

[deusexlumina]

The parents are fully to blame.

It would have taken some time for that child to get through the safety guards. In the meantime, both parents were pre-occupied and didn't realize until it was too late.

Then, while the child is stuck, all you can hear is "I'm here baby, mom's here!!!!!" Where were you before he fell in?!

Shambolic parenting and they fully deserve the backlash they are getting.

 

[ThundyCat]

Somewhere they said didn't have powerful enough tranquillisers on hand to take out an animal of that size quickly and it would have taken longer to get to their fast acting tranquillisers than the lethal option.

A silverback can literally tear an adult male in 2 in seconds never mind a child so not something you can really take chances with.

I'd imagine there was potential for the gorilla to have collapsed ontop of the child and cause injury or even suffocation.

 

[mmj_uk]

The parents should have to pay any losses incurred to the zoo, it'll teach them some responsibility. They should be thankful that their child wasn't torn to shreds.

 

[Lucifurr]

Steak tastier than gorilla meat.

How do you know?

 

[dowie]

Who said I'm a militant veggie?

I just don't pretend to give a **** about selective things that suit me.

but you're stating that others are and ranting about some vague inconsistency when there isn't necessarily one

 

[dowie]

Is it foreseeable by the parent that her negligence would lead to the death of a gorilla? I don't know, but I don't think so.

Also, is there any further information on the time frame of this? The boy is four, yes? Unless he's tied to the parents constantly, it really wouldn't have taken long for this situation to develop.

the parents are responsible for his behaviour regardless

if a 4 year old kid scratched up your car for some random reason would you advocate taking the financial hit yourself or maybe expect the parents to pay?

 

[Smokey Deza]

The zoo is just as culpable, more so infact. No, they shouldn't have to erect wire razor fences to stop adults suiciding to a pack of lions, but they should obviously block holes into restricted areas that a toddler can crawl through.

Blaming the parents never achieves anything. There will always be parents, stupid, irresponsible - whatever. Subsequently there will always be moments like this.

Had the zoo performed proper safety checks this would not have happened.

 

[Glaucus]

I have to laugh at all the outraged posts on Facebook kicking off about one gorilla... yet said people probably eat beef, which is responsible for vast swathes of the rain forest being destroyed. Also not to mention the general mistreatment of animals that happens within the industry.

Love how people are outraged about 1 gorilla, but if you bring up facts surrounding horrors of the meat industry their eyes glaze over.

Like seriously, if you want to pretend you care about **** don't be selective about the stuff to get outraged about. At least be consistent in your viewpoints. I feel like slapping people some days...... reminds me of Cecil the lion again.

can be perfectly consistent in view point. you do realise people have different views and can lump all these views together and think they come from one person.

so what beef destroys the rainforest, certainly not the stuff most people buy.

compared to palm oil that the alternative people like so much, which does destroy such places.

 

[Tute]

Parents.

 

[bayo000]

The zoo is just as culpable, more so infact. No, they shouldn't have to erect wire razor fences to stop adults suiciding to a pack of lions, but they should obviously block holes into restricted areas that a toddler can crawl through.

Blaming the parents never achieves anything. There will always be parents, stupid, irresponsible - whatever. Subsequently there will always be moments like this.

Had the zoo performed proper safety checks this would not have happened.

Had the parents looked after they child properly this would not have happened.
People like you are the problem, always looking at someone or something else that should be done when the simple thing here was for parents to do what they're meant to do.
When I was a kid I had to hold my parents hand in the zoo.

 

[Spacedeck]

But surely as a company, they should take all precautions necessary to avoid such situations. If they had taken, this would never have happened.

The parents should have bren watching the child, yes. Had it not have happened to this child, it could easily have happened to another. But should the health and safety been looked at properly, nobody would ever be in this position.

 

[dowie]

it couldn't 'easily' have happened to another... it requires a stupid child, negligent parents and is a rare event

the Zoo needs to take reasonable steps that is all

 

[Smokey Deza]

simple thing here was for parents to do what they're meant to do.

No the simple thing to do was block up whatever hole/opening the kid got through.

Everyone on here takes a big stick to parents (rightly so) but no one questions the zoo do they? It was an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Spacedeck]

Children don't always realise the extent of what they are doing.

But my point still stands, why should it be the case that an event like this has to happen before they see something which was overlooked in the first place? This could have been avoided long before any child had a chance to fall in.

 

[antijoke]

In this thread we see judgmental people who don't have kids bashing parents.

GG

 

[Ayahuasca]

How exactly do you know which posters have kids?

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

I have to laugh at all the outraged posts on Facebook kicking off about one gorilla... yet said people probably eat beef, which is responsible for vast swathes of the rain forest being destroyed. Also not to mention the general mistreatment of animals that happens within the industry.

Love how people are outraged about 1 gorilla, but if you bring up facts surrounding horrors of the meat industry their eyes glaze over.

Like seriously, if you want to pretend you care about **** don't be selective about the stuff to get outraged about. At least be consistent in your viewpoints. I feel like slapping people some days...... reminds me of Cecil the lion again.

+1
But lots of people are utter hypocrites with zero integrity!

Tragic story but the child had to be saved, I do think however though that a small child shouldn't be able to access areas like this.
Of course a determined mentally ill/suicidal adult is going to climb in no matter what you do but it should be nay on impossible for a young child to enter the cages!

 

[antijoke]

How exactly do you know which posters have kids?

The magic insight of being able to tell a non parent a mile away by how they post.

 

[Nevakonaza]

Why not tranq it? Surely you could follow up with a bullet if the tranq didn't work as intended.

Seems like overkill tbh.

Would have taken to long for the Tranq take affect,And ****ed off the Gorilla in the meantime who could have taken out that frustration on the kid.

Shooting the Gorilla was the best thing to do in the situation.

While im still baffled to how the kid got there in the first place,I blame the Zoo..the kid should NOT have been able to get in there full stop so obviously the Zoos safety was an issue here if the kid was able to get in regardless of whether the parents was negligence or not.