Anyone buying 1080 after ridiculous 1070 price

[Jono8]

They will settle, but they won't drastically go down. It's completely unrealistic to think that vendors are going to knock £50-100 off their card a month from now, which is exactly what would be required to bring them to sane pricing. There's no chance of the average price decreasing very much until something new arrives that forces them down. It just doesn't work that way. Never has. Maybe you'll get a free copy of Mafia III or something with it in a couple of months to increase the "value" proposition.

They need to come down by about £50 across the board, not £100. I think that is hugely possible with the prices where they are now. I mean some retailers are just slapping £50 on cards just for a whim/because they know they can get it.

Watching the price fluctuations on these cards is hilarious.

 

[.Trooper.]

They need to come down by about £50 across the board, not £100. I think that is hugely possible with the prices where they are now. I mean some retailers are just slapping £50 on cards just for a whim/because they know they can get it.

Watching the price fluctuations on these cards is hilarious.

Yep, £50 reductions would bring most of the aftermarket cards down to a more reasonable level (minus the moneygrabbing cards from the likes of MSI and such)

I'd expect to see them falling to this level within about a month when stock levels begin to rise.

 

[davido_labido]

They are selling... therefore, they are not overpriced. They are worth what people are willing to pay and OcUK were out of stock within half a hour (or at least they were allocated, they might have gone back into circulation shortly after, but they would have been picked up again)

Until people stop buying them, they are worth it. Maybe not to you or me, but to others.

 

[DarrenM343]

Any and all of these car analogies for GPUs are dumb as ****. Wish people would stop trying to make it work lol

Agree, trying to make a car analogy for GPU's is like trying to make a motorbike analogy for a car

Sorry, I couldn't resist...and rubbish joke

They are selling... therefore, they are not overpriced. They are worth what people are willing to pay and OcUK were out of stock within half a hour (or at least they were allocated, they might have gone back into circulation shortly after, but they would have been picked up again)

Until people stop buying them, they are worth it. Maybe not to you or me, but to others.

Completely agree with that. I've posted many comments along those lines. At the moment haven't ordered any new card, partly as I want a new PC first and also because I don't game that much at the moment so weighing up the pro's and con's they're not worth it to me at this time.

 

[Troezar]

They are selling... therefore, they are not overpriced. They are worth what people are willing to pay and OcUK were out of stock within half a hour (or at least they were allocated, they might have gone back into circulation shortly after, but they would have been picked up again)

Until people stop buying them, they are worth it. Maybe not to you or me, but to others.

Interesting viewpoint. At least it means that price gouging and profiteering no longer exist, people used to pay those prices too so I guess they must have been worth it?

 

[davido_labido]

Interesting viewpoint. At least it means that price gouging and profiteering no longer exist, people used to pay those prices too so I guess they must have been worth it?

Yup, to the people who were paying they were. If, not, why would they have paid?

To me, it is the same as the people who spend millions on bits of paper with a few scribbles or splashes of paint... how is that worth millions? They aren't to me, so I won't buy them, even if I could afford them.

The same as football tickets, I wouldn't pay over £5 to see someone kick a football around, so anything more than that, to me, is overpriced.

Value is decided by the purchaser, not the seller. If someone is buying it at a certain price, that is the value of the item to that person. Enough people are buying the 1070 for it to be valued at its current price. I can't afford one, but I have a 1080 and a few 980ti's anyways so it isn't something I need atm.

 

[lokiss]

The 970 was a big grab for me compared to what I had at the time.

With a 970 on a 1080 monitor, can't say I'm in any hurry. Course they'll be a day when I get that upgraded monitor, and more so the games will be around to exploit the power of the extra hopefully.

Hard to see where that's really going to be needed though beyond resolution and vr apps. High end games will be continued to be developed for the console market, and it's hard to see the wonderfully diverse pc indy/small team stuff exploiting the full power of high end cards.

A 30/40 fps boost on a handful of games, half of which ill never play, and already run perfectly fine on what I have, isn't really worth 400 quid.

If and when there's a lot more to be had with upgrading, 300 quid is a expensive but decent mark to pay if you must float in the world of a pc enthusiast as we do.

 

[.Trooper.]

Value is decided by the purchaser, not the seller. If someone is buying it at a certain price, that is the value of the item to that person.

Yup. It's this way with any unnecessary/luxury goods.

The football ticket is a perfect example, for you, spending £5 on a ticket to watch a game is a no go.. But some people will be willing to go and spend £1000+ on a season ticket.

What people have to remember here is that this forum is a minority. It may seem like the reception to the 1070 is bad, but forums don't speak to Nvidia, sales figures do. If the sales figures are right, they won't care what any of us think about their prices.

And even some of the people buying them may consider them "overpriced", but so great was their desire to have the card that they paid it anyway.

"Everybody who bought one considers them to be good value" is very likely to be an incorrect statement.

This is also very true.

 

[FoxEye]

They are selling... therefore, they are not overpriced. They are worth what people are willing to pay and OcUK were out of stock within half a hour (or at least they were allocated, they might have gone back into circulation shortly after, but they would have been picked up again)

Until people stop buying them, they are worth it. Maybe not to you or me, but to others.

Yes, "overpriced" is subjective, as are 99% of observations.

They are overpriced where I'm sitting.

And even some of the people buying them may consider them "overpriced", but so great was their desire to have the card that they paid it anyway.

"Everybody who bought one considers them to be good value" is very likely to be an incorrect statement.

 

[davido_labido]

Yes, "overpriced" is subjective, as are 99% of observations.

They are overpriced where I'm sitting.

And even some of the people buying them may consider them "overpriced", but so great was their desire to have the card that they paid it anyway.

"Everybody who bought one considers them to be good value" is very likely to be an incorrect statement.

I don't buy things unless I believe them to be of good value. I was in OcUK yesteday in the VR room. The Vive was AWESOME and I had around 700 quid cash on me. I almost dropped the cash on one right then, but then realised it just isn't quite as good value. If it was say 400 or 450, then I would happily of paid it. Even if I think it is expensive, I would have thought it was good value, it is what decides a sale for me, I thought that would be the same for all. I don't know, maybe it is because I don't have much money to spend on fancy items that I see things so black and white?

 

[ZeroG]

All of these GPU's are overpriced right now. It's just a brand new product and many re-sellers are forcing a premium on the overall cost because they can (mostly related to demand and poor availability). Shame on them!

Bide your time you'll get a deal ... but yes I had already decided that I was worth the extra for 1080 over a 1070 to replace my aging 780.

I'm just deciding which one to go for!?

Businesses are out to make as much money as they can, now I'm not saying this is right or wrong but it's why they exist. it's up to the public to decide if they are willing to pay that price to get an item sooner. If people didn't pay such prices then the price will have to come down.

 

[FoxEye]

I don't buy things unless I believe them to be of good value. I was in OcUK yesteday in the VR room. The Vive was AWESOME and I had around 700 quid cash on me. I almost dropped the cash on one right then, but then realised it just isn't quite as good value. If it was say 400 or 450, then I would happily of paid it. Even if I think it is expensive, I would have thought it was good value, it is what decides a sale for me, I thought that would be the same for all. I don't know, maybe it is because I don't have much money to spend on fancy items that I see things so black and white?

Some people will happily allow themselves to be fleeced, knowingly, if they absolutely must have the item on offer.

You (and I) may only buy things we consider to be "good value", but that's just not true for everyone.

I'll bet you most people in here have knowingly paid more for something than they should, because they needed one in a hurry, or they wanted it so badly they were prepared to pay over-the-odds for it.

Takes a lot of willpower and patience to refuse to buy overpriced stuff. Many will pay even when they know it's not really worth it.

 

[Jono8]

Some people will happily allow themselves to be fleeced, knowingly, if they absolutely must have the item on offer.

You (and I) may only buy things we consider to be "good value", but that's just not true for everyone.

I'll bet you most people in here have knowingly paid more for something than they should, because they needed one in a hurry, or they wanted it so badly they were prepared to pay over-the-odds for it.

Takes a lot of willpower and patience to refuse to buy overpriced stuff. Many will pay even when they know it's not really worth it.

Indeed.

I have set myself an upper limit of ~£350 for a decent 1070 as that is all I think it is worth and is all I am willing to pay.

I am quite happy to wait until prices settle and lots of stock is available, or even till there is a discount code available on a retailer (maybe another ebay 20% off everything special or something).

I don't know why MSI, Gigabyte et al suddenly think their cooler is worth £100 over the MSRP when previously those versions have only been £30-£50 more than the base price. The 970 and 980 were pretty much bang on the exchange rate at the time + VAT. The basic 1070's should be £320 updwards, not £365 upwards. Until they are £320 upwards they can stick them up their proverbial ********* .

 

[easyrider]

Some people will happily allow themselves to be fleeced, knowingly, if they absolutely must have the item on offer.

You (and I) may only buy things we consider to be "good value", but that's just not true for everyone.

I'll bet you most people in here have knowingly paid more for something than they should, because they needed one in a hurry, or they wanted it so badly they were prepared to pay over-the-odds for it.

Takes a lot of willpower and patience to refuse to buy overpriced stuff. Many will pay even when they know it's not really worth it.

I bought a 1080 FE to keep in business over June. I have until the beginning of July to return it.And I will return it. Its not my any stretch worth 619 quid. If Business's want to price gouge then I'll play them at their own game.

I'll see what happens in the coming weeks when actual stock hits and people can pick and choose where to buy from. Thats when prices get cut and online places try to undercut each other...

 

[GAC]

il be honest this is annoying for me as im sitting on the cash for a new gpu but these prices are just comical. iv said already in this thread the biggest issue isnt people buying them, as lets be honest people who have the cash on hand and want or need a new card will throw money at it. its amd not being able to give nvidia a kick up the backside.

this is why i hope the 480 is better than i expect otherwise the prices will keep going up.

 

[.Trooper.]

I bought a 1080 FE to keep in business over June. I have until the beginning of July to return it.And I will return it.

Surely you won't get a full refund if they're able to tell it's been used, and it's not faulty..

 

[IvanDobskey]

I will not pay what I consider over the odds for anything.

I buy things I consider give decent value for money.

The 10 series cards can certainly do not at their current prices.

Therefore I will keep my money.

 

[KNiVES]

I think really, some of those with 970/980 will probably skip this generation. There's a lot of people who upgrade every other cycle, which makes sense. Especially moreso when the new GPUs are built for ultra-widescreen or 4k and there's an enormous glut of power where even the venerable 970 runs just fine at boring old 1080p.

After seeing the pricing, I'm sticking with my 970 and considering replacing my 2500k and its slower DDR3 memory instead.

 

[Gregster]

I will not pay what I consider over the odds for anything.

I buy things I consider give decent value for money.

The 10 series cards can certainly do not at their current prices.

Therefore I will keep my money.

Good for you. Others consider it a worthy purchase, so bought them

 

[sunshinewelly]

Surely you won't get a full refund if they're able to tell it's been used, and it's not faulty..

That's why I get my stuff from another retailer. They accept returns no questions asked even outside the standard return window. They are so big they won't check the card and will just give a refund. Done it many times before. Buy it when it's out use it then send it back and by that time hopefully pick up a cheaper card. We all know the retailer I am on about. They own a river in South America