Sadly probably won't have much impact on the NRA, etc. but pretty hard hitting and well balanced perspective on firearm ownership in the US and how it should be.
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Sadly probably won't have much impact on the NRA, etc. but pretty hard hitting and well balanced perspective on firearm ownership in the US and how it should be.
I can't tell if you're denouncing people with mental issues or not.
Both NRA and gun membership go up after these sorts of tragedies.
They're certainly good at marketing.
I said that yesterday about the no fly list but could still buy guns etc and had Longbow and Phil675 arguing against me that it isn't a 'right' to be able to fly, but it is to own a gun...
To the rest of us sane people we can see how ridiculous a situation that is.
Anyway, something else interesting was when Obama said about the majority of Americans do want tighter gun controls, so I checked and polls do seem to show that!
So the will of the people is to do something about this problem, luckily they have powerful Lobbyists to overrule them....
To the rest of us sane people we can see how ridiculous a situation that is.
Anyway, something else interesting was when Obama said about the majority of Americans do want tighter gun controls, so I checked and polls do seem to show that!
So the will of the people is to do something about this problem, luckily they have powerful Lobbyists to overrule them....
I said that yesterday about the no fly list but could still buy guns etc and had Longbow and Phil675 arguing against me that it isn't a 'right' to be able to fly, but it is to own a gun...
To the rest of us sane people we can see how ridiculous a situation that is.
Anyway, something else interesting was when Obama said about the majority of Americans do want tighter gun controls, so I checked and polls do seem to show that!
So the will of the people is to do something about this problem, luckily they have powerful Lobbyists to overrule them....
If Obama wanted to stop people on the 'no fly' list from buying guns then he should have proposed better legislation - rather than what he did propose which could easily have been abused and used as a trojan horse to further gun control.
Whatever was proposed the NRA would block it.
There's another thing the NRA force federal enforcement to do, that I saw on TDS, i'll see if I can find it
I think you're exaggerating the power of the NRA here. The fact is that the US has passed gun control laws which the NRA opposed. The problem is that none of it has worked - just like the NRA predicted.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/u...mit-atfs-ability-to-fight-gun-crime.html?_r=0
It's to do with gun control by the ATF (the federal agency) where they are banned from keeping a central registry of gun transactions, so you can't easily match a serial number to who bought it.
Then, to add insult to injury, the ATF are not allowed to use computers to keep all the records they do have, it all has to be manually recorded on index cards and in filing cabinets, it's just insane
Also, interestingly Trevor Noah was going on about the history of the NRA about how it went from a gun safety organisation to being taken over by a radical wing in the 70's and overnight turned on its head into a gun protectionist lobbying group, all under the watch of one guy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association
It's to do with gun control by the ATF (the federal agency) where they are banned from keeping a central registry of gun transactions, so you can't easily match a serial number to who bought it.
Then, to add insult to injury, the ATF are not allowed to use computers to keep all the records they do have, it all has to be manually recorded on index cards and in filing cabinets, it's just insane
Also, interestingly Trevor Noah was going on about the history of the NRA about how it went from a gun safety organisation to being taken over by a radical wing in the 70's and overnight turned on its head into a gun protectionist lobbying group, all under the watch of one guy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association
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To WW. I was just quipping the oft used phrase.
Essentially we have to respect that it is the US constitution. It was put in the deliberately to ensure government didn't become tyrannical.
Americans should have the right to bear arms but the answer as always lies on the middle ground. Are assault rifles a right? Bazookas? 50cal sniper rifles?
Essentially we have to respect that it is the US constitution. It was put in the deliberately to ensure government didn't become tyrannical.
Americans should have the right to bear arms but the answer as always lies on the middle ground. Are assault rifles a right? Bazookas? 50cal sniper rifles?
It wouldn't matter what he said. The NRA and Republicanns won't allow it.
No. He needs the senate to vote it into law. Never gonna happen.
Just seen this, while I understand the point he's trying to make, he comes across as a stroppy, irritating man.
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That's because he is a stroppy and irritating young man. In fact just looking at his mannerisms raises thoughts of violence in me 
What a petulant little baby. The Muslim shooter who gunned down 50 innocents gave himself the label of Islamic terrorist when he openly pledged allegiance to an Islamic terrorist organisation. Textbook lefty thicko though, can't stand the heat so runs away like a useless cry baby wah!
That's because he is a stroppy and irritating young man. In fact just looking at his mannerisms raises thoughts of violence in me
Yep never liked him and this just makes me think he needs a slap
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So did he walk off because the other two refused to name it an homophobic attack, which it was , I can see his point.
So no moral outrage at what the Westboro baptist church tweeted earlier today then???
Or have you lot been too busy arguing about how evil Islam and Muslims are, to take any notice what that crazy Christian church is spouting off??
Or have you lot been too busy arguing about how evil Islam and Muslims are, to take any notice what that crazy Christian church is spouting off??
