2yr old taken by alligator near Disney land.

was the two year old little boy not armed with an automatic assault rifle?

NRA gonna have a field day with this one

awaits a tweet from the Donald "America wages war on alligators, send them back to their own country"
 
[TFU] Thegoon84;29629343 said:
So just leave the population to grow then yes? And feed them little babies yes?
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It would be unwise to make ecological decisions, based off knee-jerk emotional nonsense...
It's hardly an every day occurrence.

Roar87 said:
Since I booked flights to Orlando 3 weeks ago there has been a singer shot, a mass shooting and a child eaten by an Alligator.
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You could look at local news for most large areas, and find "worrying" crime/events. At least there'll be heightened security, and you know to look out for dangerous wildlife now.
 
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Haggisman said:
The problem with culling an apex predator like an alligator is that you leave a gaping hole in the ecosystem, meaning a) something else will take it's place, b) the animals that the alligator feeds on will have no population control, either causing issues by themselves, or encouraging other predators to the area, or as Avenged7Fold posted, will cause a subsequent population boom of alligators... and what do you think they're going to eat after they bring the population of their prey animals down to a normal level (below what is needed to sustain the elevated alligator population)?
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While you are correct in what you say, I think the point would rather be to cull them in that area.

It's a family resort with a beach, families are going to use it. Gators can come out of the water and grab kids, not just those in the water. You don't expect to go to a family theme park and worry about things such as this.


I don't think it's a bad suggestion that the area should be properly fenced off and the tiny population in that specific area culled or moved.

It's a tragic incident that should never have happened and proper steps need putting in place to stop it happening again.
 
Horrific, can't imagine what the family are going through. It's situations like this I think of myself going through them with my kids and it makes me sick.
 
This is genuinely failing to compute with me. I think I'd just go in to full gibbering wreck mode.
 
Truly horrific. My two young boys are Floridians. Ive always instilled in them, any body of water could contain an alligator. We've always had lakes at the bottom of our garden. Kids often stand on shorelines with a fishing rod. But i could see how and why someone on vacation, wouldn't be taking this into consideration, if signs were not clearly placed along the shoreline.

It is a freak accident. Very few people are eaten / bit by gators. Much in the same way that kids play at the beach, and at any given time a shark may attack.

Feel so sorry for the father. He'll not be able to live with this, knowing that he could have perhaps done more, or been smarter to save his boy.
 
AHarvey said:
I don't think it's a bad suggestion that the area should be properly fenced off and the tiny population in that specific area culled or moved.

It's a tragic incident that should never have happened and proper steps need putting in place to stop it happening again.
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How do you "properly fence off" a beach :confused:
 
Tragic.

But 'The father was believed to have scratched his hand in his attempt to grab his child from the alligator'

I like to think I'd put up a harder fight than that.
 
Christ, what a horrible incident.

I actually stayed at that hotel back in 2009 and I remember a ton of signs telling us to keep away from the water!
 
Quartz said:
Tragic.

But 'The father was believed to have scratched his hand in his attempt to grab his child from the alligator'

I like to think I'd put up a harder fight than that.
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** Personal attacks will not be tolerated under any circumstances *** When you're on vacation, and at hotel that's created a beach like atmosphere, i can see why a parent would have let his guard down. If you think the father just stood around watching, take that keyboard of yours and smash it into your own face. An Alligator in murky waters is in his domain. Its instinct is to pounce out of the water at lightening speed, grab hold of its prey and get it back into the water in a flash of a second and subject its prey into a death roll. The father probably wasn't all that far from his kid, if he managed to get a scratch. Anything more than a few feet, and all he'd of done was get his feet wet.

You best never become a father and take your kids to the beach. That applies to all of you, that is blaming the father. ******
 
Fence mesh would have to be pretty small, baby gators are tiny and get big quick. Imagine all the crap that will get caught in the fence. I think its probably easier to keep people away from the area than gators.
 
thedoc46 said:
You best never become a father and take your kids to the beach. That applies to all of you, that is blaming the father.
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I am a father.. and have been to this resort.. and as much as a tragedy this is and feel for the family I cant help but feel the father allowing his child into the water even though there are LOADS of signs saying don't he has to take some responsibility..

you must understand also this is no beach as we know it.. its a massive lake with an outlet to a larger body of water..
 
Was the boy in the water or just at the shoreline ? It is somewhat rare for a gator to go for such large prey. Normally birds and small creatures are what they go for. Reports say from 4 to 7ft, which is relatively small for a gator.

This is like saying never take your kid to the beach incase a shark attacks. Which can and does happen, but again, very rare.
 
thedoc46 said:
Was the boy in the water or just at the shoreline ? It is somewhat rare for a gator to go for such large prey. Normally birds and small creatures are what they go for. Reports say from 4 to 7ft, which is relatively small for a gator.
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The Police have said he was on the shoreline near the water and dragged in, so he wasn't swimming.

At some stage, things will turn to lawsuits. While they may have banned swimming and most likely have signs stating such, they ultimately have a serviced "beach" on the edge of a lagoon in a resort which is aimed at families with children. I can see Disney settling out of court on this. I doubt they would put up a wall, but probably would have to have some preventative measure, or staff guarding the shoreline going forward to prevent something like that happening again.
 
Quartz said:
Tragic.

But 'The father was believed to have scratched his hand in his attempt to grab his child from the alligator'

I like to think I'd put up a harder fight than that.
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It's easy to think that, but they are bloomin' fast creatures and would have been in the water within seconds.
 
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