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No that is actually a part of the puzzle.

This man had obviously been taught that he's going to hell due to his homosexuality just like all homosexual Muslims. And this guy has now killed 50 innocent people? Somehow I don't think someone told him he's going to hell for killing 50 innocent people, it's more likely that he was taught that he will be rewarded in heaven or become closer to God for doing something for God like killing gays and becoming a martyr.

Stop posting with an answer that has nothing to do with what oldcoals asked.

Which was,

What about how Islam treats homosexuality, are you going to ignore that?

So what is your opinion on how Islam treats LGBT.
 
Well if that (gun dealer being under the pump) is the case, then that really is a stupid line of thinking on a wider scale.

Gun dealers gonna deal. If you don't want deranged killers to buy assault weapons over the counter, then don't sell assault weapons over the counter. You can't expect a shopkeeper to make the distinction.

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That is the most idiotic thing i have read so far in here, so you are saying that regardless of the outcome of the checks with FBI\ATF before selling him them and following the rules of authorities rules on selling weapons he would still have sold him the guns?

Have you got proof of that, what a joke of a reply.
 
Who is Islam?

As far as i am concerned Islam is not a person.

If your asking how people who follow Islam treat LGBT, then all the ones i know seem to treat them the same as anyone else, with a few of them actually being gay.

Hahaha, you know exactly what i am asking and so does everyone else, another non answer.
 
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That is the most idiotic thing i have read so far in here, so you are saying that regardless of the outcome of the checks with FBI\ATF before selling him them and following the rules of authorities rules on selling weapons he would still have sold him the guns?

Have you got proof of that, what a joke of a reply.

It's been a regular point made over the past few days that this chap wasn't under any ban on buying guns, so yes he was always going to be able to buy those guns, and blaming the gun shop guy is a very stupid thing to do.
 
Hahaha, you know exactly what i am asking and so does everyone else, another non answer.

I know what your asking and i gave you a non answer because you gave an invalid question. You dont see it as an answer because you dont understand my point. I am not skirting around the truth, i am defining what is at fault.

You need people to discriminate other people, a fictional book cant discriminate on its own.
 
I know what your asking and i gave you a non answer because you gave an invalid question. You dont see it as an answer because you dont understand my point. I am not skirting around the truth, i am defining what is at fault.

You need people to discriminate other people, a fictional book cant discriminate on its own.

I fully understand.

The fictional book teaches them to discriminate doesn't it, The Qur'an is the literal word of God isn't it?

A person does not need other people to learn discrimination, how do you work that one out?
 
As I just said, the relevance is that the Gun shop owner is coming under criticism for having sold him the guns.

Which i am guessing we both agree he\they should not be getting stick, as long as all selling regulations for weapons where followed, which from what i have read they was.
 
Milo To Give Press Conference At Ground Zero In Orlando

Milo will give the short talk “Absolutely Haram: Islam versus Gays”, which was scheduled to be delivered at the University of Central Florida this week before UCF PD cancelled his event, stating they could not guarantee his safety.

He will discuss his suspension this morning on Twitter following his criticism of Islam.

7pm tonight, popcorn at the ready.
 
No that is actually a part of the puzzle.

This man had obviously been taught that he's going to hell due to his homosexuality just like all homosexual Muslims. And this guy has now killed 50 innocent people? Somehow I don't think someone told him he's going to hell for killing 50 innocent people, it's more likely that he was taught that he will be rewarded in heaven or become closer to God for doing something for God like killing gays and becoming a martyr.

Stop posting with an answer that has nothing to do with what oldcoals asked.

Which was,
What about how Islam treats homosexuality, are you going to ignore that?


So what is your opinion on how Islam treats LGBT.

Hahaha how about you stop making yourself look silly, You really have no clue what's going on do you? I wasn't answering what oldcoals asked lmao. I was using his question to make a point about what Evangelion pointed out :D

Anyway, since you seem to be struggling majorly, I will break it down for you and explain every step of the way, because I'm nice:


Step 1: Evangelion posted the quote about how the attacker could have been homosexual himself:

Step 2: Oldcoals posts this in response to Evangelion not me:

What about how Islam treats homosexuality, are you going to ignore that?

Step 3: I seemed to have posted the following which you appear to not be capable of understanding or simply are in denial.

No that is actually a part of the puzzle.

This man had obviously been taught that he's going to hell due to his homosexuality just like all homosexual Muslims. And this guy has now killed 50 innocent people? Somehow I don't think someone told him he's going to hell for killing 50 innocent people, it's more likely that he was taught that he will be rewarded in heaven or become closer to God for doing something for God like killing gays and becoming a martyr.

So what Exactly don't you understand about this post? And why am I not allowed to use Evangelions quote which says that he could have been gay as well as OldCoals's question, as a basis for making a further point that the man has been taught that gays are bad and gays go to hell, therefore in order to get a chance of going to heaven he has killed gays just like that imam instructed people to.


The attacker's belief that they're going to wake up in heaven is the primary motivation behind every single suicidal terrorist attack that has ever happened for goodness sake!!
So why is so hard to understand that he could have killed 50 gays in order to absolve himself of his own sin of being gay as well as sacrificing his own life on earth to get a free ride to heaven? The imam said killing gays is good, so what does the attacker do? kill 50 gays as well knowing he's eventually going to get shot himself.

Isn't it obvious that this attacker believed he's going to get some sort of reward from God for the killings, in this he could have believed that killing gays will absolve him of his own sin of being gay, why are you so in denial or perhaps you're simply incapable of understanding it as a mere potentiality (based on the findings that he could actually have been gay)?
 
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I fully understand.

The fictional book teaches them to discriminate doesn't it, The Qur'an is the literal word of God isn't it?

A person does not need other people to learn discrimination, how do you work that one out?

You clearly don't understand because you're basing your argument on the assumption that the Quran is actually the literal word of God as well as an assumption that everybody automatically knows that the Quran is the actual word of God.

The Qur'an is the literal word of God isn't it?

A person does not need other people to learn discrimination
Well it's now clear how deep your level of insight really is lmao, who do you think told the next person that the Quran is the literal word of God, You think the Quran just walks up to people and starts telling them that it's the literal word of God? I sure do hope no one ever stumbles across a copy of the Lord of the Rings then hahahahaha. :D

Please explain the mechanism by which the Quran teaches people things?

Because I know dozens of people who have read the Quran and it hasn't taught them a ****ing thing lmao. :D

Furthermore, at least 90% of muslims I know, don't even understand the Quran! They get ALL their understanding of "Islam" from chinese whispers for goodness sake. You really have no idea about mechanisms behind religious propagation and indoctrination let alone the propagation of Islam specifically.

People are the very mechanism by which religion propagates for goodness sake, especially Islam, since most people are borderline illiterate in their native languages let alone have the ability to understand Arabic!

Ever heard about indoctrination? The Quran doesn't just wake up one day and decide to go indoctrinate a couple hundred kids.

The very existence of apostates simply makes your argument incredible.
And the fact that many people "read" the Quran who are not Muslim and who don't spontaneously go killing gays and who don't get taught anything whatsoever, further makes your argument completely illogical.
 
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I give up with him, he has an answer for everything, and genuinely thinks opinions like the above are correct.

Body language = minces = gay, top work.

The world isn't just full of Yes and No for goodness sake. All you ever do is demonstrate the insight levels of an amoeba.

There is every potential the man is a homosexual, that does not mean I have declared the man actually is or is not a homosexual, it simply allows me to conduct a calibrated probability assessment on every potentiality, why am I not allowed to discuss things based on various potentialities? Why are you in complete denial of statistical probabilities? Why are you incapable of understanding probability assessment?

The fact that you are unable to discuss things based on all the potentialities means you're the one who thinks they already have the answer. I'm posting ideas based on something which is possible. You're the one in denial and blaming things on inanimate objects.
 
The take away from all of this is that ckearly asim18 is a massive flaming homosexual desperate for every straight man to secretly be gay

l, it simply allows me to conduct a calibrated probability assessment on every potentiality


No Mr Data you watched a few miniute video you font even have a hand full of data points.

And calibrated aginst what?

What did you calibrate this mans secuality against?


Is there a big ISO certified "straightness" bar in paris we can pop down to calibrate our bull**** against?
 
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The take away from all of this is that ckearly asim18 is a massive flaming homosexual desperate for every straight man to secretly be gay
You are correct in your belief that homosexual men attracted to men would be very desperate that other man to also be homosexual, especially if they're attracted to them, same way a straight man would be a bit annoyed if someone they were attracted to happened to be a lesbian. But you're wrong, I'm not actually a homosexual, sorry mate, I did say several pages ago that your gaydar is weird. ;)


No Mr Data you watched a few miniute video you font even have a hand full of data points.

And calibrated aginst what?

What did you calibrate this mans secuality against?


Is there a big ISO certified "straightness" bar in paris we can pop down to calibrate our bull**** against?

Erm... Calibrated against other potentialities, it says at the end of the the sentence you quoted lol.

The other potentiality being he's not gay. Which is still a possibility and I've never denied that he could be straight as a stick, which is why I also explicitly said I would like to see the full video clip as well as a chance to befeind him for the purposes of feeding my probability assessment with more data by utilising deeper psychoanalytic techniques.
 
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Oh so you're the expert?



Ah "you think", Yes clearly Tefal, you are absolutely the wrong person to be discussing this with, you'd be pretty ****ing surprised at what conclusions a professional with years of experience can come to in seconds of meeting someone for the first time. Be right back while I continue discussing this with some real masters and doctors. Actually no, I won't be right back on the subject of potentially homosexual imams, some things are clearly too intellectual for you.

Umm no i have not done any distance learning "phsycology" ever, nor psychology for that matter.

I'm just trying to understand why this guys body language is the way it is, the possibility that he's homosexual is not an impossibility.

Anyway, does anyone have a link to the full speech pls? I promise I won't post our ideas on OcUK. :p

Go on then go dissxus it eith some "real masters and doctors" I'd love a signed statement from your teacher that you can certify a persons sexuality froma few miniute hate speech video.


I would genuinly love to see the accredited person who would put thier name to that.




And funny cause in the other thread where you were boasting you new more about gay muslim mens actions because of your confidential access to "in depth" research on the subject you ended up admiting it was because you were a part time student.


You are wholey unqualified having possibly spoken to some doctors and "masters" doesnt mean ****.

All your posts on other threads basicaly come down to you think anyone slightly effeminate is gay and all gays are effeminate.

It's hilarious if depressingly outdated
 
You are correct in your belief that homosexual men attracted to men would be very desperate that other man to also be homosexual, especially if they're attracted to them, same way a straight man would be a bit annoyed if someone they were attracted to happened to be a lesbian. But you're wrong, I'm not actually a homosexual, sorry mate, I did say several pages ago that your gaydar is weird. ;)




Erm... Calibrated against other potentialities, it says in the quote you quoted lol.

The other potentiality being he's not gay. Which is still a possibility and I've never denied that he could be straight as a stick, which is why I also explicitly said I would like to see the full video clip as well as a chance to befeind him for the purposes of feeding my probability assessment with more data by utilising further psychoanalytic techniques.



You dont know what calibrated means fo you?
 
You dont know what calibrated means fo you?

Actually you don't seem to understand "calibrated" is one word and understanding the definition of this word has nothing do do with a statistics, a calibrated probability assessment is something else mate. According to Bayesian propositional logic I am actually not inferring anything to be true nor false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibrated_probability_assessment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_probability
 
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