Brexit thread - what happens next

[Akagi]

So are people thinking this exit isn't actually going to happen?

I think that, but my thoughts are influenced by hope...

 

[Jono8]

Im really dumbfounded that you consider this a possibility.

Scary isn't it.

 

[Buckster]

I think the problem is that they already act like they are, this is why the rest of the country has an issue. Our problem is that the people we elect all dwell within London.

Maybe Londoners votes should have more say as they obviously know best

to be fair they do bank roll a lot of the country

if the City loses 70k + jobs - you'll be wanting their taxes back I can tell you that for sure

 

[Mauller]

Food and water. That's it. London could buy from elsewhere.

THey could, but how does it get there? what trade routes does it take? where to they buy their electricity from and where does the infrastructure come from? where does the water and communication infrastructure come from and internet connections that all of the financial institutions rely on?

It all goes through the rest of england.

In what reality could that happen?

Are you suggesting people in London would suddenly not be able to pay for things? You've really lost me on this.

I am talking about an extreme as much as London declaring itself a seperate state/country, if london left it would massively impoverish what was left of the UK because of london centric policies. And likewise the rest of the UK could either tax them to buggery or just stick their fingers up and cut off all amenities.

 

[Freakbro]

London is not going to become an independent country.

I love the fact you even had to post this as a rebuttal to some peoples posts

 

[Harlequin]

Well we all want to see a plan, but none is forthcoming.

http://www.eureferendum.com/documents/flexcit.pdf

 

[V F]

Just saw on the BBC News channel 503, Damon Albarn saying democracy has failed...

 

[stewski]

I love the fact you even had to post this as a rebuttal to some peoples posts

Just funny isn't it.

 

[antijoke]

Any exit is looking like it wont save a bunch of money and wont prevent movement of people, is that the exit that people voted for?

So how does that play out?

Truth is revealed and we then go, oh ok we're actually wanting to stay now so it's all good.

Talk about making us look like a mockery, we decide we want out then don't have the balls to see it through but have caused all sorts of **** along the way, yeah that will go down swimmingly with all the other member countries.

 

[Gilly]

THey could, but how does it get there? what trade routes does it take? where to they buy their electricity from and where does the infrastructure come from? where does the water and communication infrastructure come from and internet connections that all of the financial institutions rely on?

It all goes through the rest of england

 

[Mauller]

Wait, so you are suggesting war against a city state who's people democratically voted to be independent (hypothetically)?

What happened to democracy in this scenario?

Democracy died the moment they decided that they wanted their own democracy. Hypothetically if they broke away. And considering them leaving would greatly disadvantage the rest of the UK we could just stick out finger up and turn the lights and water off.

 

[stewski]

So how does that play out?

As they say on QI "No One Knows".

 

[do_ron_ron]

Juncker is everything that wrong with the EU. The leaders of the EU are completely off the rails and not even aligned with any of the leaders in Europe. The calls for Juncker to resign are well deserved.

The EU is NOT a sovereign state, it is a club of members who elect the heads of the small bunch of Eurocrats. I recently read that their total number is about the same as a small UK council. If, as you claim,

The leaders of the EU are completely off the rails and not even aligned with any of the leaders in Europe

they would be replaced smartly. It was mainly the UK and especially Farage who did not like Juncker.

 

[Mynight]

THey could, but how does it get there? what trade routes does it take? where to they buy their electricity from and where does the infrastructure come from? where does the water and communication infrastructure come from and internet connections that all of the financial institutions rely on?

It all goes through the rest of england.

How are you planning on taking down planes with your pointy sticks?

 

[dowie]

So are people thinking this exit isn't actually going to happen?

I think that is more a symptom of denial from the remain camp... apparently Boris would be too scared to enact article 50 or some other nonsense.

We might well retain some form of association agreement with the EU *if* they can agree on restricting freedom of movement but it seems pretty clear at this point that we're leaving

 

[the_r_sole]

Does anyone know how to get someone sectioned? I think the time has come

 

[Mauller]

Talking about the strategics of running a city and how the rest of the UK could send a huge FU to London if it hypothetically broke away from England by isolating them and turning the water and lights off.

 

[stewski]

Democracy died the moment they decided that they wanted their own democracy. Hypothetically if they broke away. And considering them leaving would greatly disadvantage the rest of the UK we could just stick out finger up and turn the lights and water off.

Will the EU do the same to the UK?

(I can't believe I'm getting into the London leaves the UK debate)

 

[Cern]

Yes thank you.

I'm all for freedom of speech. But read the theme to all this thread. On one hand we have constructive strong minded people who are remainers, conceding it's not the outcome they wanted however they are accepting facts and getting behind the idea. The solidity of the UK and it's demand to thrive again and an Indipendant Country.
However we have remainers who got out voted fairly. Now there going to very low unbritish lengths. All the legal jargon about it's not legally binding or a second referendum.
Why should they continue to be disillusioned and think they will get there way. Just find it very pathetic quite annoying tbh.

Well I think there's a lot of people on the Remain side who don't believe it was decided "fairly" because of all the lies being told and the fact that several of the prominent Leave campaigners were mostly doing this to further their own political careers rather than because they passionately believed in it. Hence the lack of any kind of an exit plan and the likes of Boris and Gove keeping a very low profile because they didn't really expect to win and were just playing political football with the issue.

I think it's likely a proportion of the Leave voters might start feeling uneasy when the reality of what is actually going on starts to dawn.

And jargon or not, the referendum is not legally binding, it was an advisory.

And about people not getting their way and bleating on. It's rather ironic to find out that the person behind the second referendum petition which is now gaining millions of signatures, was a Brexit voter who was worried about a narrow win for Remain and wanted a second more decisive referendum.

So you see, hypocrisy abounds on all sides.

 

[bloodline76]

I was laughing at the notion that London relies on the rest of England for food and water and that the rest of England could stop them getting it

Well if we were turning to the realms of fantasty or civil war then yes they could. But I don't think the country has quite got to that point. We still have leadership in our government...oh wait, well we have our other parties that will rally the troops, they have strong...oh no that's not quite true either...

Should we start a fantasy petition on whether we start a civil war or not? I'm surprised it hasn't already been done on twitter