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Brexit thread - what happens next
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What are you talking about? There was WW1 and the Treaty of Versallias, hyperinflation and the destruction of the established World order before the Nazi's strong-armed their way to power. One would need to be smoking the strong stuff to see any parallels between then and now.
I'm sorry that happened to you, honestly I am, I voted Leave and I will and have challenged racists in public on the spot. I've challenged BNP supporters in my home town before on their views, I've stuck up for my gay friend at the pub when someone accused him of "looking at him" funny . There's never any excuse for any sort of discrimanatory behaviour at all.
This how ever doesn't mean I'm going to regret my vote, otherwise the racists have won.
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Yeah get a grip people, don't worry about that racist abuse you are suffering. It'll all blow over.
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I was in Glasgow many years ago and witnessed the amusing sight of someone being racially abused who then turned round to the abuser and answered in the broadest Glaswegian accent. The look on the abuser's face as he heard this was priceless.
Come back when your own loved ones start getting racially abused. My partner has lived here for well over 10 years and not until Friday has she ever felt unwelcome, suffered being called vermin and witnessed such widespread encouragement that she should '**** off home'.
To pretend this is a handful of isolated incidents is willful ignorance of a big problem and the only disgusting behaviour is from that of the abusive parties and the apparent apologism starting to surround it.
Basically, we go on as at this time last week. the sky is not falling, Gordon Osborne is not producing extra taxation, additional cuts. i am back in the office on similar tasks.
Re. immigration, in my opinion, it will carry on, but will hopefully have some degree of planning and controls, the UK could not sustain indefinitely an increase in population of 500k pre annum. Apart from the requirement for services etc. The sheer increase in urbanisation and population density is undesirable.
That is not racism. That is proper planning for the future of the country where all are welcome but must be accommodated properly with due thought to how it should be done. People must be able to buy in to this and to have say in how their areas should develop locally. there has been a huge lack of consultation in recent decades and situations permitted where free movement has meant changes for the worse in many areas.
Re. immigration, in my opinion, it will carry on, but will hopefully have some degree of planning and controls, the UK could not sustain indefinitely an increase in population of 500k pre annum. Apart from the requirement for services etc. The sheer increase in urbanisation and population density is undesirable.
That is not racism. That is proper planning for the future of the country where all are welcome but must be accommodated properly with due thought to how it should be done. People must be able to buy in to this and to have say in how their areas should develop locally. there has been a huge lack of consultation in recent decades and situations permitted where free movement has meant changes for the worse in many areas.
Well, I'd tend to agree with you. But it's not me she's trying to appeal to (I'm a staunch unionist and wouldn't vote SNP even if I could) and the people she doesn't want to appeal to want another referendum. She also won with 48.1% of the vote on a manifesto promising a second referendum if there was a material change of circumstances. I don't think that's an argument without democratic merit.
on Friday I said no chance, now I say some chance.
and eu wouldn't care and cant do anything anyway. it only becomes an issue when we enact article 50.
I think theyll force us out, weve embarrassed the grand project.
We'd never do that. The only way it isn't happening is if the new PM/government don't activate article 50 on the basis of a weak majority or a referendum campaign based on lies or something... But then that would create a massive uproar and it'd be political suicide via the leave voters
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There is no explosion of racism across the British Isles. The media are, as usual sensationalising the story for those precious clicks. They do this for the same reason they trumpet Sturgeon, put down Corbyn and try to make BoJo seem like an incompetent buffoon, it creates a sense of drama and tension which compels you to read.
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Never a truer a word said, but this should also be kept in the minds of those people who voted remain and are now demanding that the result should be ignored because leave voters don't know what's good for them and/or stereotyping anyone that votes leave as either racist or thick.
The main out crying and attacking of normal folk I've seen is actually from Remain voters, especially the Guardian middle-class ones with decent salaries. A young chap at Glastonbury earlier was complaining that his nan will "be dead soon" and so he thinks she was 'selfish' for voting against his desire to remain. Some disgusting comments from BOTH sides.
I don't want you to regret your vote, democracy is just that, you can vote for what you beleive in. What I want people to accept is that this is not project fear, it is actually a reality that one of the kickbacks from the result is that the racist element have taken this as a green light to come out of the woodwork. It's not coincidental and it's not anecdotal as the prevalence is way to high and sustained. Moreover it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better and the leave camp just saying we won deal with it is simply not good enough.
yep
It has been... many times by many remainer-folk...
personally I would love to see the government go `**** it - article 50 , no negotiations , its WTO for us` - Germany and france would go into meltdown - would be a laugh to see..... in a sadistic , country falls apart way
given the interlinked world we live in
given the interlinked world we live in
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