Brexit thread - what happens next

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Have a look at this article from the Torygraph. There are memorable some quotes to take home...
"We should scrap EU-mandated labour market regulations and social protections as fast as possible." is a corker !
Also "There is no point denying that a lot of mainstream corporate business will start to move to Frankfurt".

Labour's campaign should have been stronger.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-lets-move-on-with-six-steps-to-a-bright-fut/
 
Mauller said:
Because it is not democracy unless it is 'my democracy' with the outcome 'i want'. That sums it up. Which is not democracy at all but Fascism.
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Noboyy is talking about a second in/out referendum now. We are talking about a referendum as to how far out you want to be. Seems very sensible.
 
Mauller said:
We could see an operating reactor in a 2 year or so timescale instead of a decade for a normal plant. But it really depends on how the nuclear watchdog view the design and the safety etc. Even though the design and operation is far safer than any current pressurised water reactor design.
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I'm not a nuclear engineer but I am familiar with business and management. It would take two years just to secure funding for a new power station and sort out legal paperwork. And that would be a miracle in itself.

I don't know how long it takes to build a molten salt reactor and given people are still working on producing a "test" one, I doubt you do, either. But two years from now to have it commissioned is nonsense.
 
h4rm0ny said:
I'm not a nuclear engineer but I am familiar with business and management. It would take two years just to secure funding for a new power station and sort out legal paperwork. And that would be a miracle in itself.

I don't know how long it takes to build a molten salt reactor and given people are still working on producing a "test" one, I doubt you do, either. But two years from now to have it commissioned is nonsense.
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I meant a 2 year timescale for a test reactor in the original talk. but with the inherent safety and ability to produce the reactor in a factory then ship it to site. it will not even take half the time to get one online compared to a traditional pressurised water reactor.

one other caveat of molten salt reactors is that they cost far less than pressurised water reactors to build due to a number of reasons.
 
All this talk of OMGZ what we going to with trade agreements which one EFTA EEA FTA AA etc...
How about NONE.. Be a leader, stick our neck out and go completely free trade, It's where the world is headed anyway...

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Fuzz said:
All this talk of OMGZ what we going to with trade agreements which one EFTA EEA FTA AA etc...
How about NONE.. Be a leader, stick our neck out and go completely free trade, It's where the world is headed anyway...

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Because you can't unilaterally decide to do this. Trade agreements require agreement from both parties. You can't force a country to take your goods and services if they don't agree to your terms.
 
kitch9 said:
Keeping freedom of movement aside, we would only have to apply EU regs to goods and services supplied to the EU. At the moment EU regs and laws have to apply to everything we make sell and do, even if they never leave these shores.

The removal of red tape will help those companies trying to market away from the EU, a lot in some case.
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And all those eu regs relating to goods to mean they are made to a certain standard. You font think this isnt something a uk government would keep?

In saying that if it wasnt for the eu, we would be keeping pigs and cows in inhumane conditions again perhaps. There was no inclination from the uk to bring these conditions in.

Perhaps thats how we can save British farmer, go back to battery everything and sod the animal's welfare?
 
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Greebo said:
Noboyy is talking about a second in/out referendum now. We are talking about a referendum as to how far out you want to be. Seems very sensible.
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Wouldn't this make even more of a nonsense of the initial referendum? It should have been clear from the onset what an out vote entails, rather than this vague, confirmation bias driven fiasco we ended up with?
 
All this discussion and no one has thought of the single most important issue.

What will we do with our PDO/PGI/TSG products like Stilton cheese and Melton Mowbray pork pies, do we really want any old Tom, Dick or Harry to be able to produce our beloved pork pie and call it something it isn't! :p:confused:
 
Rilot said:
Because you can't unilaterally decide to do this. Trade agreements require agreement from both parties. You can't force a country to take your goods and services if they don't agree to your terms.
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So let's just take their country! Worked a few hundred years ago, right? :)
 
Rilot said:
Because you can't unilaterally decide to do this. Trade agreements require agreement from both parties. You can't force a country to take your goods and services if they don't agree to your terms.
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Well, we can in theory drop all tariffs, quotas and other nonsense, completely open up, drop taxes, deregulate and cross our fingers. Alas, it is pure madness to do this as the UK currently constituted and its economy being what it is. It would be total chaos.
 
Fuzz said:
All this talk of OMGZ what we going to with trade agreements which one EFTA EEA FTA AA etc...
How about NONE.. Be a leader, stick our neck out and go completely free trade, It's where the world is headed anyway...

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The EFTA already has free trade deals with a good number of countries, they also contain ascension clauses allowing new members to use those free trade deals.

http://www.efta.int/free-trade/free-trade-agreements

Then there is also an issue that Free trade is already setup within the EEA as well.

But being in the EFTA-EEA or some other EFTA-Bilateral deal allows us to then make our own deals as we wish.
 
Fuzz said:
All this talk of OMGZ what we going to with trade agreements which one EFTA EEA FTA AA etc...
How about NONE.. Be a leader, stick our neck out and go completely free trade, It's where the world is headed anyway...
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So we drop all our incoming tariffs to zero. We stand no chance of persuading anyone to give us a better deal because we've already given them everything they want for nothing in return. Now everyone and their dog uses us as a dumping ground for their goods, and we kiss what manufacturing we have left good-bye.

What does Britain's economy do under these circumstances?
 
Just saw Farage's little speech at the EP today. That guy just says it without a care doesn't he!

Some will not like it but i like his approach. I like how he really cares more than most MPs etc about this country. Ok, some will argue against that but this is how he come across and he says a lot of what the average 'Jo' in the street is talking about. He has more balls than most MPs!
 
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