Brexit thread - what happens next

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Has anybody checked what the result would have been had it been two parties for/against in an FPTP GE ?

Based purely on votes I think it would have been an even bigger win for leave, though to balance that somewhat you might have found many people that voted leave as a 'protest vote because remain will win anyway' voting the other way.
 
Based purely on votes I think it would have been an even bigger win for leave, though to balance that somewhat you might have found many people that voted leave as a 'protest vote because remain will win anyway' voting the other way.

I mean by seats. Say CON were leave and LAB remain and everyone voted the same, how would it look ?
 
We do it based on our own technology and industries. These new modular stable salt reactors cost no where near as much in terms of investment to produce. one of the main tenants is that they can be assembled on a production line to a plan. That makes them cheaper in the end compared to the single run and bespoke plants that are currently in use today.

They also don't need anywhere near as many safety measure nor high pressure vessels in their design, further reducing costs.

it is just a matter of the government investing in it.

The world is filled with "Ifs". But what we know is that we've likely just lost a much needed new nuclear reactor because of our withdrawal from the EU. If a new and cheaper and better nuclear power station appears in its place, then it will be a good thing. But you can't argue the loss of something good isn't bad because hypothetically something better might happen. Are there fallback plans for Hinkley that mean we'll put in a better reactor? No there are not. There's just no new reactor. As a DIRECT consequence of leaving the EU.

I mean I could respond to almost any bad thing by saying "but if the government came in and fixed it in a better way, it wouldn't be bad." But as a meaningful response it wouldn't carry any weight unless it seemed like the government was going to do so. You seem very pro-Brexit but the loss of a nuclear reactor with no alternative in consideration cannot be spun as anything other than a loss.

But no doubt we'll make it up with windfarms. :/ :(
 
Based purely on votes I think it would have been an even bigger win for leave, though to balance that somewhat you might have found many people that voted leave as a 'protest vote because remain will win anyway' voting the other way.

Conversely all the people who resigned to voting Remain since they thought it was a sure win for remain.
 
Lol, Labour isnt winning any election, they could bring jesus back from the dead and still lose.

No idea on if May is a closet Leaver though, seems to be very annoyed with the EU imo.

Labour don't need to. The vote is going to be so split that there will be another coalition. Even without that I'm without a doubt the proportion is remain MPs will increase. Leave MPs are already well outnumbered. The opportunity was lost when Cameron didn't proceed with article 50.
 
It's not even recovered yesterday's losses yet alone the post-Referendum falls and the pre-Referendum worries factored into the market in advance. Only the most deluded could think that this feeble rally represents a win for Brexiteers.

I believe there is an Economics term for it: The Dead Cat Bounce.
 
The world is filled with "Ifs". But what we know is that we've likely just lost a much needed new nuclear reactor because of our withdrawal from the EU. If a new and cheaper and better nuclear power station appears in its place, then it will be a good thing. But you can't argue the loss of something good isn't bad because hypothetically something better might happen. Are there fallback plans for Hinkley that mean we'll put in a better reactor? No there are not. There's just no new reactor. As a DIRECT consequence of leaving the EU.

I mean I could respond to almost any bad thing by saying "but if the government came in and fixed it in a better way, it wouldn't be bad." But as a meaningful response it wouldn't carry any weight unless it seemed like the government was going to do so. You seem very pro-Brexit but the loss of a nuclear reactor with no alternative in consideration cannot be spun as anything other than a loss.

But no doubt we'll make it up with windfarms. :/ :(

The hinkley deal was a lose, lose for us in terms of the cost of the energy from it once it was built. And even then the predicted costs for construction and wind-up were spiraling out of control.

Also Windfarms are not a good alternative, we will likely need to keep some of our current coal and oil plants running beyond their expected EOL.

And the considerations behind home built and designed modular nuclear reactors is a good prospect and industry for us. The government just needs to get off its arse and stop investing so much into london and the services sector.
 
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