Brexit thread - what happens next

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I was hoping the poster would reply. I don't think he gets why Feb was a low point yet he's claiming as if things are back to normal

I'm away on holiday so missed Uk news but still. What have we actually gained ?!? We have no plan and a bunch of leave 'icons' are very quiet now.

We wont know if we gained anything for decades.
 
I can't see into the future, it is just another option that can happen, are you so sure it will be in the next 3 months?

I was asking why it would happen in the next three months as you said it would happen before Article 50 was invoked which everybody seems to think that is when it will happen.
 
The pound has been going up (slightly) as well.

I do wonder how much of that is based on the optimism that article 50 is becoming increasingly far in the future and backtracking of the leave campaign making it look like more likely that we will still be in the free market and have free movement?

Edit: awful sentence but hopefully people can understand what I'm trying to say! :p

Everyone is saying we are going into the EFTA so that basically makes the economic impact zero. The market will still remain a bit shocked because of what happened and the underlying concern about the EU going down the pan. However it is basically getting over this and beginning to look forward.
 
For companies that do both EU and non-EU trade, sure. But for the majority of British companies that have nothing to do with the continent, different regulations will benefit them.

Until they tended for work with a company that deals with the EU.

Most companies don't work in isolation. For most companies it will make sense to produce products that adhere to as many regulations as possible, that way not impeding the saleability of the product.
 
Labelling a lot of people there.

His language isn't ideal - but you'd be ignorant to think 100% of the 52% actually knew what they were voting for. Add to that those who are in denial now and he has a case. A 2nd referendum, no matter how implausible would bear a very interesting result and I imagine we'd see a shift.

Still hoping for a backtrack on article 50. Just typing that out is therapeutic.
 
He's not going to get elected but I don't think the Labour part membership really care. They would rather have a leader who was at least slightly left wing but unelectable, than a centre-right leader who stands a chance.

Well, yes. I mean that's fairly obvious, isn't it? Labour aren't a football team, we don't support them because of some kind of tribal loyalty, we support them because we believe in left wing values and want to see left wing approaches adopted in the UK. Getting another Blair does not help us achieve our political aims.

What I want is for Labour to find a genuinely left wing candidate who is also electable. Someone who has that ineffable leadership quality and doesn't have Corbyn's baggage. Someone who is willing to play the game a bit, but not too much, and understands that fights like Trident are simply not worth having. In the absence of such a candidate I'll vote for Corbyn again over a second-rate Blair knockoff or a continuity Miliband candidate.
 
The pound has been going up (slightly) as well.

I do wonder how much of that is based on the optimism that article 50 is becoming increasingly far in the future and backtracking of the leave campaign making it look like more likely that we will still be in the free market and have free movement?

Edit: awful sentence but hopefully people can understand what I'm trying to say! :p

The EU will start to get def. peed off if Britain tries to prevaricate over this. They want a start asap to end the uncertainty.
 
I was asking why it would happen in the next three months as you said it would happen before Article 50 was invoked which everybody seems to think that is when it will happen.

Who is everybody?

For clarity i hope Article 50 is enforced asap, but i dont think it will be.

We are dealing with politicians remember.
 
Until they tended for work with a company that deals with the EU.

Most companies don't work in isolation. For most companies it will make sense to produce products that adhere to as many regulations as possible, that way not impeding the saleability of the product.

That means they will have to generate two sets of standards for production and make sure that they don't mix the two up or do another overall set that will satisfy both.
 
How will they benefit them?

High energy industries like steel can continue to operate at terribly high power levels without a need to improve energy efficiency due to tariffs originally introduced for environmental reasons. They can continue to use methods which are decades out of date and though insanely expensive to run, to the point of making the steel unprofitable and costly, it is enough to keep companies alive while they give money to shareholders until they ask for bale out money.

Question is, what will they blame the lack of profit on this time, now they cant blame eu energy tariffs for high energy usage industries?

...Probably the Chinese.
 
Who is everybody?

For clarity i hope Article 50 is enforced asap, but i dont think it will be.

We are dealing with politicians remember.

But these are the amazing politicians who can run this country better than when were part of EU :(

They can't even run a party at the moment
 
His language isn't ideal - but you'd be ignorant to think 100% of the 52% actually knew what they were voting for. Add to that those who are in denial now and he has a case. A 2nd referendum, no matter how implausible would bear a very interesting result and I imagine we'd see a shift.

Still hoping for a backtrack on article 50. Just typing that out is therapeutic.

That's a big statement, it still means the same as labelling a lot of people as only voting for one thing.

And where are all these people in denial, any actual figures based on facts, i am getting sick of seeing that banded about on here as if it is some real decision maker on overturning the result.
 
Who is everybody?

For clarity i hope Article 50 is enforced asap, but i dont think it will be.

We are dealing with politicians remember.

Most political commentators I have heard. Once the elections are over by September and the new leader is in place the EU will be pressing hard for movement. And the EU to implode before then is about as likely as winning the lottery for the next hundred years.
 
Frankly this is a google copy and paste but none the less, with less regulation by the EU we can out manufactor it with lower cost. I'd imagine that they are quite worried to be fair, and I wish our government would walk into talks, with some sense, (over inflated or not) that we do potentially hold a set of aces.

Admittedly I skim read that but it seems to be essentially complaining about climate change and other environmental regulations alongside regulations related to workers rights. All regulations that we could happily get rid of, if you are big business and don't care about anything but the bottom line.

It's not a great argument against red tape for the general public!
 
http://www.cfmo.org/2016/06/australia-new-zealand-to-negotiate-new.html?m=1

In a move that will greatly benefit the potential for Commonwealth freedom of movement, the Prime Minister of Australia, Malcolm Turnbull, has announced that Australia will team up with New Zealand in a bid to negotiate new trade and immigration deals in the wake of the Brexit vote in the United Kingdom.


He has also ordered an urgent review from Treasury officials and diplomats over the implications of Britain's exit from the European Union.

Following the UK's June 23rd referendum result, the potential for freedom of movement between Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and Canada has now become a hot topic among many politicians and supporters of the initiative.

By leaving the European Union, the United Kingdom will soon be exempt from unlimited free movement with other EU member states, and therefore, able to negotiate its own immigration protocols including free movement agreements within the Commonwealth.

Mr Turnbull told reporters in Adelaide on Monday that he'd been in contact with his New Zealand counterpart, John Key, detailing the implications of Friday's vote as "considerable".
 
Along with all the other Remain voters across the country. There is no distinct Scottish vote on this matter.

It's annoying that people keep ignoring this.

They are acting like all of Scotland voted to stay - only 25% of the population voted to stay, and 38% of those who voted voted to leave.

We didn't vote as individual countries we voted as the UK. Yes there are many in Scotland who are peeved but almost half the UK is peeved along with them!
 
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