I've applied for about 4 different types of visas over the years in the UK...it's expensive, complicated and can take a very long time if you're unlucky. I'm guessing i've spent upwards of 5k GBP in visas alone for UK. I missed my graduation because of how long it took to get a visa and have at other times been unable to leave the country for 1-4 months at a time. I've heard of other people who've been unable to leave for over a year.
Whoever said that it is just 'filling in a form' has no idea what they are talking about.
Just been perm banned from Neogaf for saying there's a bad side to immigration and that's where the resentment in poorer areas comes from.
Never deny a lefties desire to kill a debate.
Did you expand on that or literally just say there's a bad side to immigration?

exactly... the attitude from former commonwealth nations is that trade deals could be conducted rather more efficiently... and we're hardly a small player... we're a bigger economy than most of the countries we could form deals with unilaterally
Dodgy Dave isn't a character on Only fools and Horses.leaked emails - lol - people really don't seem to like each other in politics
Giving up trading with 490 000 000 to have a better agreement with 13 000 000
Even my 11 year old son can see the lack of thought behind this.
Everyone in this thread is saying lets do deals lets deal with Oz NZ, China, USA, Europe.
This isn't Peckham market we are talking aboutDodgy Dave isn't a character on Only fools and Horses.
The EU has taken 70 years to build up the free trading block and it's still limited in some markets.
The naivety shown in this thread beggars belief.
Giving up trading with 490 000 000 to have a better agreement with 13 000 000
Even my 11 year old son can see the lack of thought behind this.
Everyone in this thread is saying lets do deals lets deal with Oz NZ, China, USA, Europe.
This isn't Peckham market we are talking aboutDodgy Dave isn't a character on Only fools and Horses.
The EU has taken 70 years to build up the free trading block and it's still limited in some markets.
The naivety shown in this thread beggars belief.

Don't derail the misery train.More good news.
'Hollande says no sense in scrapping France-Britain border policy'
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-hollande-immigration-idUKKCN0ZF1LA
They don't need to give one up for the other. They can have both now. EFTA plus FTA with commonwealth. This isn't possible in the EU but it is outside with an EFTA agreement to get EU single market access and FTA for other countries.Giving up trading with 490 000 000 to have a better agreement with 13 000 000
Even my 11 year old son can see the lack of thought behind this.
Everyone in this thread is saying lets do deals lets deal with Oz NZ, China, USA, Europe.
This isn't Peckham market we are talking aboutDodgy Dave isn't a character on Only fools and Horses.
The EU has taken 70 years to build up the free trading block and it's still limited in some markets.
The naivety shown in this thread beggars belief.
The journalist Paul Mason says the EU leaders beefed up the draft of the communique they issued at the end of their “EU27” meeting today (the one Britain was not invited to) to make it clear they they will fight any attempt by David Cameron’s successor to try to get access to the single market while not allowing free movement.
What is Neogaf? Sounds like it is ripe for an OCUK visit...
for the love of god, THEY CANT BLOCK SINGLE MARKET ACCESS all they can do is put tariffs on it.
Guardian feed just updated with this;
Guardian feed just updated with this;
News just in:
The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby
English will remain as the official language of the European Union
rather than German, which was the other possibility.
As part of the Brexit negotiations, the British Government conceded that
English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-
year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English".
In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will
make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in
favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have
one less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when
the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words
like fotograf 20% shorter.
In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted
to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.
Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have
always ben a deterent to akurate speling.
Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag
is disgrasful and it should go away.
By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th"
with "z" and "w" with "v".
During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining
"ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer
vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu
understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.
Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze
forst plas.
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