The next Labour leader thread

[RaohNS]

I remember Raoh is a fan of Galloway's anyway, lol. So it explains a few things: why start one fire, if you can burn the house and the barn down too?!

Splendid.

So I support a person with principle? What did your team offer?

We shall see the fire in Europe before long with the burning of the elite whom you put on a pedestal and disregard your interests

 

[datalol-jack]

So I support a person with principle? What did your team offer?

We shall see the fire in Europe before long with the burning of the elite whom you put on a pedestal and disregard your interests

I wager we won't, and you and Galloway will still be going on about fires, elites and other tangential rubbish, without offering any solutions, till you go senile. That's want fringers do -- they shout. Nor do I subscribe to the view that we merely should criticise, sit back, let the world burn and wait for the glorious revolution to sweep us all to BS utopia where everyone can do what they like, eat plenty, be free and work as little as they like, in perfect harmony and peace (after a slaughter of a large section of the population we don't like just because). Please. Even Jezza nips this level of drivel in the bud.

 

[RaohNS]

I wager we won't, and you and Galloway will still be going on about fires, elites and other tangential rubbish, without offering any solutions, till you go senile. That's want fringers do -- they shout. Nor do I subscribe to the view that we merely should criticise, sit back, let the world burn and wait for the glorious revolution to sweep us all to BS utopia where everyone can do what they like, eat plenty, be free and work as little as they like, in perfect harmony and peace (after a slaughter of a large section of the population we don't like just because). Please. Even Jezza nips this level of drivel in the bud.

Says the person who also whinges about political topics. Two sides of the same coin. This country will never be a utopia and frankly I don't want it to be. Strife has its place but that cannot be at the end of the whip.

Nor do I, I would rather invoke article 50 in a couple of months time. We will see what happens when other nations invoke their populations. It may not be a literal burning but the figurative burning of an ideology that is slipping: Aka your chums in the establishment and those who share their mentality.

 

[datalol-jack]

Says the person who also whinges about political topics. Two sides of the same coin. This country will never be a utopia and frankly I don't want it to be. Strife has its place but that cannot be at the end of the whip.

Nor do I, I would rather invoke article 50 in a couple of months time. We will see what happens when other nations invoke their populations. It may not be a literal burning but the figurative burning of an ideology that is slipping: Aka your chums in the establishment and those who share their mentality.

Keep talking. I hear imagination is all that's required these days.

 

[RaohNS]

Keep talking. I hear imagination is all that's required these days.

The source of innovation

 

[Arazi]

Watson announced he isn't running for leader.

 

[PermaBanned]

Lol, apparently the rebels are seeking legal advice about whether they can split and take the name "Labour" with them. Don't see that happening somehow

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Lol, apparently the rebels are seeking legal advice about whether they can split and take the name "Labour" with them. Don't see that happening somehow

I wish they would split and form their own party.

I wonder if there would be any legal impediments to them using "Tory lite" as the new name?

 

[RaohNS]

I wish they would split and form their own party.

I wonder if there would be any legal impediments to them using "Tory lite" as the new name?

Or the anti-democratic party.

Slogan: "We don't like you or your views"

 

[datalol-jack]

Lol, apparently the rebels are seeking legal advice about whether they can split and take the name "Labour" with them. Don't see that happening somehow

What a farce! If they do split, I'm well braced for the next generation of our Tory overlords, but still would find it bizarre to have the SNP as the official opposition.

 

[Mr Jack]

Apparently Newsnight approached 50 of the Constituency Labour Party chairs and secretaries who endorsed Corbyn last year and 45 of them are still offering their support to Corbyn. He's not going anywhere.

The coup is spent, they've shot their load and got nowhere. All they've done is hurt the Labour party, let the Tory off the hook when they should have been hammering them, and weakened the shadow cabinet. And this for the plot they've been arranging since April!

What a shower.

 

[datalol-jack]

The main danger for Jezza may not be so much the leadership challenge, but miffed MPs crossing the floor. With Tories ready and willing to hide behind the Fixed Parliaments act, he might end up with stronger opponents and little voice in the chamber. That could be damaging come election time, since our system is both tribal and heavily loaded towards MY LOCAL MP syndrome, with people voting for a face they know. Just look at Clegg! I'm surprised he scraped through in Sheffield, but here we are. Boundaries are getting changed, the total of MPs is going to be reduced and we do not have MP recall powers.

 

[Duke]

Apparently Newsnight approached 50 of the Constituency Labour Party chairs and secretaries who endorsed Corbyn last year and 45 of them are still offering their support to Corbyn. He's not going anywhere.

The coup is spent, they've shot their load and got nowhere. All they've done is hurt the Labour party, let the Tory off the hook when they should have been hammering them, and weakened the shadow cabinet. And this for the plot they've been arranging since April!

What a shower.

They will always be a protest party with him at the helm, depends what you want from them.

 

[Azza]

As I said previously regardless of what members think of Corbyn you don't lose support of so many people and have people say the things that have been said so publically about you unless there's something seriously wrong with your character, leadership and motivational skills.

 

[Judgeneo]

Apparently Newsnight approached 50 of the Constituency Labour Party chairs and secretaries who endorsed Corbyn last year and 45 of them are still offering their support to Corbyn. He's not going anywhere.

The coup is spent, they've shot their load and got nowhere. All they've done is hurt the Labour party, let the Tory off the hook when they should have been hammering them, and weakened the shadow cabinet. And this for the plot they've been arranging since April!

What a shower.

Coup has failed, a split could now be on the cards. This whole thing is a mess.

 

[wordy]

I really admire Corbyn's stubborn attitude, & I think the reason Cameron is making such a fuss about Corbyn going is because he knows come the next GE, the tories are stuffed if Corbyn is still the leader of the Labour Party.

As I said previously regardless of what members think of Corbyn you don't lose support of so many people and have people say the things that have been said so publically about you unless there's something seriously wrong with your character, leadership and motivational skills.

We're talking about people who are tory in everything but name. They'd rather have a red tory blairite in charge than someone who wants to offer a serious left wing opposition, the parasites who depend of the status quo being maintained.

 

[datalol-jack]

I really admire Corbyn's stubborn attitude, & I think the reason Cameron is making such a fuss about Corbyn going is because he knows come the next GE, the tories are stuffed if Corbyn is still the leader of the Labour Party.

I doubt it. The SNP are holding out in Scotland, with the Scottish Conservatives pushing past Labour. He's overestimating his popular support outside metropolitan areas, in the North and even parts of London. The Midlands is a more mixed picture; but the South is dead to the comrade. Without the latter, you can't win elections. The end.

 

[Gilly]

I really admire Corbyn's stubborn attitude, & I think the reason Cameron is making such a fuss about Corbyn going is because he knows come the next GE, the tories are stuffed if Corbyn is still the leader of the Labour Party.

I really, really doubt that's the case - though it depends entirely on the next week and how Labour handle the mess they're in and the handing of the post-referendum decisions from Cons.

 

[stewski]

I really, really doubt that's the case - though it depends entirely on the next week and how Labour handle the mess they're in and the handing of the post-referendum decisions from Cons.

It depends on a lot more than next week.
In my opinion peoples attitude to anti austerity "left leaning" politicians could change dramatically during a brexit.

 

[datalol-jack]

It depends on a lot more than next week.
In my opinion peoples attitude to anti austerity "left leaning" politicians could change dramatically during a brexit.

Ozzy could always make things interesting with another omni-shambles budget on the sly. Seems too busy to write one atm. Probably won't move until the Autumn Statement on anything big anyway.