My cousin did lose his job when the EU broke our fishing industry. Pretty sure if I had made a post about it nobody would have cared or called for us to leave the EU.
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My cousin did lose his job when the EU broke our fishing industry. Pretty sure if I had made a post about it nobody would have cared or called for us to leave the EU.
I think every MP on boths sides was guilty of that and on that basis every one of them should resign their seat. Won't happen though.
I actually rate Osborne a lot as a chancellor and would rather have him there until a new PM is elected or should we put Boris in as chancellor?
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Ridiculous point? The simple point is that wait until someone here loses their job as a result of this and you can tell it to their face.
A Leave vote isn't going to help those unskilled non EU workers so please explain what that means?!
Were you a head class debater in school? Or a current activist? As for the past few months watching you in politics threads since all the Trump movement, it seems to have brought the worst out in you. As you seem to be chasing every argument for the sake of arguments no matter what has been said.
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I guess it is a "forum" to vent my political ideas, in real life people seldom debate these things.
cannot get any worse ? really ? do you think for some it is impossible to get worse ? I find that hard to believe
look at the hardships some of the southern EU countries are suffering - and compare that to the hardships seen in the UK
I'm not belittling it that some have it very hard - I'm really not - but I'm saying it can get a lot worse - just look at other countries
if the money runs out the money runs out
our economy suffers, the government have less money to spend, be it on the NHS, education, welfare etc
When we get the new Tory leader, we'll know pretty quickly. If they're serious they'll activate article 50. If they're not, they'll delay it "while they get the negotiating team in order and make serious decisions about their goals" in order to allow the Jul-Sep GDP figures to come out. These will show a 1-2% drop in GDP, and employment figures will also show a slide, along with other bad economic indications. They'll then use this as an excuse to "re-consider" activating article 50 "in the light of new evidence" (also know as the blinkin' obvious and widely predicted actually happening) and hold a commons vote on article 50.
I think it's pretty unlikely, personally, the EU is too unpopular among Tory voters and members for them to be willing to put the country's interest ahead of party interests.
I think it's pretty unlikely, personally, the EU is too unpopular among Tory voters and members for them to be willing to put the country's interest ahead of party interests.
Where was all this behaviour before the vote? It was nowhere as bad until the result was cast.
Why would I want to do that?
And again I didn't cast my vote based on assumptions of what would happen to some specific jobs held by some random posters... it is just such a ridiculous point to even make. There will be people who benefit and people who lose out in the short term whichever way this thing went but to say what about X person, wait until Y happens to them and tell them to their face... is just utterly ridiculous.
who said anything about 'unskilled'
There are very, very few people in the UK for whom things cannot get any worse as they're about to find out.
"Are you afraid? You should be. You’re in the
great game now, and the great game’s terrifying."
"When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die"
"Speaking on Tuesday, Assistant Chief Constable Mark Hamilton clarified that while reporting of hate crimes had risen via an online form, there was no evidence to suggest that this was uniquely related to a Brexit vote, nor that the crimes have actually been committed".
"However, we are seeing an increase in reports of hate crime incidents to True Vision, the police online hate crime reporting site. This is similar to the trends following other major national or international events".
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/29/police-hate-crime-not-surged-57-per-cent-since-brexit/
No I am living in project "here and now" not "project we might be better off at some point in the future, possibly maybe".
If we properly leave it wont be "short term instability" it will be years and years of uncertainty and instability and lack of investment in the UK.
The markets and our credit ratings haven't dropped just because we will go through a rocky few weeks. We will be in years of financial turmoil and that is why the markets are doing what they are doing.
they can't its already been stated today in news that it has to be en-acted by Parliament
Of course... I forgot that you consulted your crystal ball and know exactly how this will all work out, how silly of me.
Well according to some leading leave figures it was immigration. Isnt it Gove who said the biggest reason for voting leave was immigration?
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_immigration
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What was actually reported was that there was an increase in reporting which is similar too the trends following other major and national events, where reported crimes have fallen back shortly afterwards.
Oddly no mention of a left wing conspiracy.
It's happening. Right now.
Well no, it's not, as it's still the short-term.
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Serious point and I am happy to be proved wrong, what study or precedent out there that to show we will be better off?
All the predictions from experts that I've read this far says leaving is a bad idea.
So it makes me wonder about the Dunning-Kruger Effect on some of the believer of the Leave side.
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