You are saying, with certainty, that our politicians will knowingly be breaking the law? That we'll have top-class (hopefully) lawyers involved in the negotiations (because why wouldn't you?) and they'll be knowingly breaking the law too?
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You are saying, with certainty, that our politicians will knowingly be breaking the law? That we'll have top-class (hopefully) lawyers involved in the negotiations (because why wouldn't you?) and they'll be knowingly breaking the law too?
Point is our elected government can vote yes or no. If people dont like our current government wants Turkey in and has been the lead instigator of getting them in, then vote for a different government? Thats democracy.
Then for members of our current leading party to use Turkey joining as a reason to leave the EU leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. If its just a massive issue why not push for the government to use their veto and listen to the voters?
Perhaps because governments make decisions all the time on what is in the best interest of the whole country and not just a section of the population?
Otherwise we end up with a referendum on every policy which would be madness..
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Plus May is going to be in charge and we wont have any civil liberties. First sign of trouble and there will be martial law and curfews.
Considering the EU said their negotiations can formally start after enacting article 50 I'm not sure what law there is to be broken. The law says you can't have a trade agreement outside of the EU whilst you are a member. There won't be a trade agreement outside of the EU before we leave. I think the confusion that is occurring is that the EU has to negotiate on behalf of all member states. In this case it is not going to apply to all member states and it won't start until after we have left the EU.
Certainly? Why would the EU even start trade negotiations with a country that's willing to break the laws they're trying to sign up for?
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Do you think the UK will listen to that, deals will be done on the quiet.
The EU, along with all of it's member states, will not negotiate any treaty until after a leaving member state has left.
It is illegal for member states to treat outside the EU directly with any non-EU member states.
We haven't invoked article 50.
Which element are you struggling with?
The two quotes in question:
* Under EU law, the bloc cannot negotiate a separate trade deal with one of its own members
* It is also against EU law for a member to negotiate its own trade deals with outsiders
We can't trade during the exit negotiations because we're still a member until we exit. We can't do trade negotiations with any singular country after that because we have to deal with the EU as a whole. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?
http://thebrexitplan.com/
Finally, something concrete.
People seemingly dont want to believe this and think we'll do backdoor deals whilst still a member with current members of the EU willingly breaking EU laws as well.
I don't know why they don't get it. It's been spelled out for us, yet people still make claims we will do deals behind closed doors, why exactly they think like this I do not know.
Finally, something concrete.
People seemingly dont want to believe this and think we'll do backdoor deals whilst still a member with current members of the EU willingly breaking EU laws as well.
I don't know why they don't get it. It's been spelled out for us, yet people still make claims we will do deals behind closed doors, why exactly they think like this I do not know.
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Was going to ask in a similar vein but this is essentially my question as well.
Can we get into specifics?
It's because they've realised article 50 isn't imminent.
More pointedly, UK shares are 10% cheaper than they were last week, thanks to the devaluation of the £.
lol, again with the Leavers thinking complex international and legal negotiations will be done the same way Trotter Independent Traders does a deal on the QT on the phone or down the pub
lol, again with the Leavers thinking complex international and legal negotiations will be done the same way Trotter Independent Traders does a deal on the QT on the phone or down the pub
lol, again with the Leavers thinking complex international and legal negotiations will be done the same way Trotter Independent Traders does a deal on the QT on the phone or down the pub
Have you put a date on when your almighty sulk might end or is it terminal ?
Not sure where me pointing out the stupidity of some Leavers arguments is me sulking
It's not that post just you in general.
I don't know anything about the legal wording, but is it just that they aren'ta llowed to actually agree treaties? Because that doesn't necessarily preclude starting negotiations.
(ignoring the lack of negotiating teams available to spread across multiple fronts)
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