MTF Transpeople To Compete With Women At Rio Olympics

Terminal_Boy · 3 Jul 2016 at 12:50

How can this be remotely fair? Leaving gender politics well alone, people born biologically male have major physiological advantages over those born female as far as athletics is concerned.

Heart/lung capacity and muscle density being the main 2 off the top of my head.

Might be time to consider moving towards a class system like shooting and motor racing: "standard", "modified" and "open - anything goes".

Glaucus · 3 Jul 2016 at 12:52

I just want to watch an open drugs Olympics. anything goes.

The Funktopus · 3 Jul 2016 at 12:54

Glaucus said:
I just want to watch an open drugs Olympics. anything goes.

To quote Lee Evans on the subject: "The triple jump becomes a hop, a skip and where the **** did he go!?"

StriderX · 3 Jul 2016 at 12:59

The woman might aswell not turn up, they can just blame Zika and not have to deal with the liberally-small minded.

Dis86 · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:00

Terminal_Boy said:
How can this be remotely fair? Leaving gender politics well alone, people born biologically male have major physiological advantages over those born female as far as athletics is concerned.

Heart/lung capacity and muscle density being the main 2 off the top of my head.

Might be time to consider moving towards a class system like shooting and motor racing: "standard", "modified" and "open - anything goes".

Nah, men and women are equal. I don't even get why we have gender groups at all.

dowie · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:11

kind of defeats the point of separating genders... the whole point in the first place was the physical advantage and a biological man who is now legally a woman still has that physical advantage...

Arazi · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:15

Glaucus said:
I just want to watch an open drugs Olympics. anything goes.

Me too

Gilly · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:15

This is crazy. You'll get guys pushed into switching just to win. See Russia and China.

Arazi · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:16

Terminal_Boy said:
How can this be remotely fair? Leaving gender politics well alone, people born biologically male have major physiological advantages over those born female as far as athletics is concerned.

Heart/lung capacity and muscle density being the main 2 off the top of my head.

Might be time to consider moving towards a class system like shooting and motor racing: "standard", "modified" and "open - anything goes".

Who the hell come's up with these regulations etc, it is not fair in any way shape or form.

Chojin · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:19

Has this not been the case for the shot put event for decades?

mmj_uk · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:43

This is going to be damaging to womens athletics for the reasons already mentioned, transgenders will eventually dominate.

ethan · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:46

They still have to demonstrate their testosterone level are below a certain point etc.Its not quite a free for all.

sanaxe1 · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:51

Looks like this could be my last shot at the Olympics. Just need my wig and to do the old tuck and tape.

MooMoo444 · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:52

Biologically they are still male, seems daft to me.

Nasher · 3 Jul 2016 at 13:57

It is a bit silly.

If your born a man, you have a male body and that can't be changed. You can't argue with nature no matter what a piece of paper says. They should at least give them a handicap.

Can you imagine if this become popular in something rugby? Safety out the window for the sake of PC nonsense.

Vulcan · 3 Jul 2016 at 14:02

They've been through this stuff in mixed martial arts:

During Fox's [transgendered] fight against Tamikka Brents, Brents suffered a concussion, an orbital bone fracture, and seven staples to the head. After her loss, Brents took to social media to fuel the controversy surrounding Fox's perceived advantage: "I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not because I’m not a doctor. I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right,” she stated. "Her grip was different, I could usually move around in the clinch against other females but couldn’t move at all in Fox’s clinch…"

Destination · 3 Jul 2016 at 14:25

Caitlin going to take the heptathlon to match his decathlon as Bruce?

-edit when was this decided?
it seems just as stupid as letting professional boxers compete.

Dis86 · 3 Jul 2016 at 14:28

So...I'm confused.

Women have spend years campaigning to be recognised as equals in sport. We see this in the fact that for major tennis tournaments the prizes for male and female athletes are the same. Despite females playing fewer sets.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/31/female-sport-stars-male-prize-money

Now when they're put up against biological males they're complaining?

So let's be straight, are they equal or not? Remember...if you say they're not you're a sexist, misogynistic, awful example of a human being!

JanM · 3 Jul 2016 at 14:31

Dis86 said:
So...I'm confused.

Women have spend years campaigning to be recognised as equals in sport. We see this in the fact that for major tennis tournaments the prizes for male and female athletes are the same. Despite females playing fewer sets.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/31/female-sport-stars-male-prize-money

Now when they're put up against biological males they're complaining?

So let's be straight, are they equal or not? Remember...if you say they're not you're a sexist, misogynistic, awful example of a human being!

I don't think this is remotely similar to be honest.

Destination · 3 Jul 2016 at 14:32

Are you really confused?
Man cuts off his balls, gets to compete against the women.
Its absurd, it isn't confusing, if he had his balls cut off prepubery, it might be easier to compare, otherwise it makes no sense.
Getting paid the same shouldn't be an issue, if in a sport you bring in as much advertising and fans, then you should be paid the same, if you don't then you won't be, look at women's soccer as a counterpoint.