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Nvidia Does Not Have Any 16nm FinFET Yield Issues – Demand Overwhelming Supply On The High End $699

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Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 graphics card currently experiencing supply “lag” due to overwhelming demand in the high end lineup

The answer to that question is no. TSMC does not have any yield issues pertaining to the 16nm FinFET node and Nvidia does not have any supply issues either. Fudzilla’s sources have also seemingly confirmed our own. The rumor about ASUS was also redacted by the retailer and the company spokesman has confirmed to us that there is no known issue with GTX 1080 supply from Nvidia currently (meaning the 1080 STRIX is still under production!). That said however, the company has been experiencing demand way above what it was expecting in its high end lineup, which is why, due to simple supply and demand, the prices have been going up.

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-does-not-16nm-yield-issue-gtx-1080-supply/
 
While its been a long time getting there - once 16nm FF+ hit risk production and volume production it reached maturity in terms of performance and yields faster from those points than any previous TSMC process.

That isn't to say there is/isn't issues producing nVidia GPUs but the base process definitely doesn't have yield issues.
 
This coming from the same site that had sources that put the RX480 well above where it landed. Then in the same sentence they mention FUD. I don't think supply is as Rosy as this article is painting. I would think after a month and a bit on the market supply would start to get better if they were churning them out at a decent rate. Gibbo was saying they were only getting 50 a week on certain aib models. That does not fill me full of confidence.
 
the funny thing is, you will find ppl who believe this BS.
1-rushed launch.
2-no stock to start with.
3-yields for 314mm² isn't very good or priority wafers go to 1060 to bring it as soon as possible
they sell well yes, but not to the point of not being able get more than dozen cards per AIB a week at major retailers
 
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I love these kinds of threads... You get those true colours shining through from both sides. Not that it matters but we all love our hardware and it shouldn't matter but you will get those who say" BS" and those who say "yer, understandable" :D All good fun
 
I love these kinds of threads... You get those true colours shining through from both sides. Not that it matters but we all love our hardware and it shouldn't matter but you will get those who say" BS" and those who say "yer, understandable" :D All good fun

The thing is gibbo said he sold around 2-3k in a month on the 1080/70. I think it combined both cards. To put that into perspective about supply he's expecting around 2k Sapphire nitro's by the end of the month which is just one model. He seemed to have around 2k at launch with more coming. With some common sense it would seem AMD can churn out Polaris a good bit faster even with the problems they looked to have faced.
 
The thing is gibbo said he sold around 2-3k in a month on the 1080/70. I think it combined both cards. To put that into perspective about supply he's expecting around 2k Sapphire nitro's by the end of the month which is just one model. He seemed to have around 2k at launch with more coming. With some common sense it would seem AMD can churn out Polaris a good bit faster even with the problems they looked to have faced.
Or AMD have simply been stockpiling longer.

It's also a smaller chip and would naturally have better yields per wafer.

Can we all just agree never to post anything from WCCFTech?


At the moment I don't see how they're not supply constrained.
People seem to praise or denounce specific WCCFTech articles based on whether they want to believe them or not.

And I dont think there is any argument about there being supply constraints. What the article is addressing is whether there is cause for concern in terms of the yields.
 
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Judging from the reaction of some people, you would think this article is personally insulting them and their families.
 
I love these kinds of threads... You get those true colours shining through from both sides. Not that it matters but we all love our hardware and it shouldn't matter but you will get those who say" BS" and those who say "yer, understandable" :D All good fun

ok i guess that was directed to me, so lol i never hide the fact that i like AMD more than Nvidia, but im not the kind to advance emotional arguments, i stay pretty objective.
and like everyone else i like when im right, i made a post on pascal thread way before this thing became an issue, to discuss potential stock issue for 10 series, and ppl brushed it under the rug pretty quickly and denied the possibility of it happening without adressing any points i brought, so yea i still stick to my opinion, especialy now when i see some ppl still denying stock issue for the 10 series, and it's because it is BS argument that doesnt answer any questions on the matter other than emotional deflection of the issue.
so here why dont you explain to me why after a month and a half of the release, why most AIB cards are pre-order only.
 
Judging from the reaction of some people, you would think this article is personally insulting them and their families.

well it is insulting to ppl's intelligence, i would get some false advertisement even if i dont like it, and can label that a deceit from the company, but when you ask me to question my own ability to analyse simple data, it's kind of personal, that im too stupid to understand what's going on around me, i dont know how that isn't frustrating to you ?
 
Why are people still listening to wccf.

Exactly, the the last month's bull from them should be enough proof on this forum alone to never look at them again.

Their own editor claimed AMD tried to bribe them with early exclusive hardware in an attempt to make them stop "leaking" all those super high amazing RX 480 numbers and clock speeds.

Remember them saying the average reference one would easily clock to 1400+?

Don't bother giving them any clicks, or views.
 
well it is insulting to ppl's intelligence, i would get some false advertisement even if i dont like it, and can label that a deceit from the company, but when you ask me to question my own ability to analyse simple data, it's kind of personal, that im too stupid to understand what's going on around me, i dont know how that isn't frustrating to you ?

Most people know this site is full of conjecture and should not be taken very seriously. By acting out you only give them more attention than they deserve really. The problem is both camps use them to suit their agenda whenever its convenient. Would be nice to see some consistency from certain people.

That said, it's not wrong for the OP to link this or make a new topic about it. This is a forum where we discuss things after all.
 
which is why, due to simple supply and demand, the prices have been going up.

Any opportunity for Nvidia to justify higher prices :P

We don't have supply issues, however we have supply issues as demand is so high, so yes that's why prices have gone up.

Urm *Cough* Launching our Founders edition at an unprecedented high price for 980 tier replacement is nothing to do with price raising *Cough*

Yep it's all demand baby, not our new price.. Oh and we don't have supply issues, expect we have supply issues as demand is high... Derp
 
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