Brexit thread - what happens next

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How are you unable to find this out for yourself?

I did a couple of Google searches and after not seeing what I wanted I came here thinking "there is a thread discussing this, maybe these nice people will enlighten me." a couple of people have answered and they didn't type much than you did.

This has never interested me until now. So I have had no need to research it or learn about it.
 
Kinda crazy to think May is the moderate in this :) In my opinion with who ever becomes PM, if Article 50 is not invoked soon after, as in days after, a Snap Election is on the cards.

Nate

May and moderate don't even belong on the same page, let alone the same sentence !!!!! Thatcher max coming to a country near us soon I guess.
 
yup, which is why it is a massive shame Boris isn't standing... Stephen Crabb isn't a bad alternative (if only he hadn't said such stupid stuff about Gays!)

in other news... oh look:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/04/sp-scoffs-at-armageddon-warnings-for-britain/

ratings agency points out that our own free floating currency (yes another reminder that not joining the euro was a good idea!) has done what it is supposed to do and act as a shock absorber...

“We’re not in the Armageddon camp,” said Jean-Michel Six, the rating agency’s chief economist for Europe.

“Devaluation acts a shock absorber. It stimulates exports and makes the London Stock Exchange more attractive to foreign investors,” he said.

The UK economy should muddle through with growth of 1.5pc this year, 0.9pc in 2017, and 1pc in 2018, shielded from the storm by fiscal largesse and monetary stimulus a l’outrance.
The benign outcome assumes that the Bank of England will cut interest rates to zero and relaunch quantitative easing, buying £100bn of bonds in each of the next two years.

It also assumes that Britain joins the European Economic Area – the "Norway model" – or a close equivalent that safeguards full access to the single market and preserves the City’s passporting rights for financial services.

“If that does not happen, it could be extremely negative,” said Mr Six. A hostile EU divorce could push the housing market into a downward spiral as an exodus of migrants compounds the damage from an economic slump.

but... provided we take the sensible option.....
 
yup, which is why it is a massive shame Boris isn't standing... Stephen Crabb isn't a bad alternative (if only he hadn't said such stupid stuff about Gays!)

in other news... oh look:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/04/sp-scoffs-at-armageddon-warnings-for-britain/

ratings agency points out that our own free floating currency (yes another reminder that not joining the euro was a good idea!) has done what it is supposed to do and act as a shock absorber...



but... provided we take the sensible option.....

Yeah I've seen that from other sources. Slowed up growth if we join the EEA, negative recession of 2 percent if we don't.

So it all comes down to whether May gets in or Leadsom.
 
the bit towards the end of the article does highlight a potential area for things to go a bit belly up on the EU side... Italian banking system... and Deutsche Bank being in a rather crap state... also youth unemployment still a disaster in Southern Europe... there is a heck of a lot that could potentially go wrong over there in the next couple of years (I'm not saying it will but there is a not insignificant chance). I wonder how a second financial crisis would affect negotiations... ideally they'd be under even more pressure to not fall out with the UK, on the other hand there would be further pressure to stop other countries from leaving if things took a downturn. I'm quite glad we're on the way out partly because of the real risk of another big financial ****storm occurring in the EU in the near future.
 
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it isn't likely at all, just looking at the numbers in favor of remain then assuming they'd rebel against the government after a referendum in which over half the country voted leave is flawed. Not to mention a fair few of them from the Tory side wouldn't have exactly been EU fundamentalists... so take into account that some were partly leave/partly remain but decided to chose remain overall, others were a bit of both but decided to go with the govt... I think it would be a bit harder to scrape together enough to force a snap election and as far as I'm aware neither potential PM is interested in having one.

Both potential PMs are committed to triggering article 50 too. The only thing potentially acting as a stumbling block is the potential legal challenge.

Well, MPs would quite legitimately not have to listen to the overall referendum. They could vote the way their constituency voted and still argue they voted the way their electorate wanted. It wouldn't help the remain side as we know but there could easily be a fair few MPs voting remain with clean consciences.

yup, which is why it is a massive shame Boris isn't standing... Stephen Crabb isn't a bad alternative (if only he hadn't said such stupid stuff about Gays!)

in other news... oh look:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/04/sp-scoffs-at-armageddon-warnings-for-britain/

ratings agency points out that our own free floating currency (yes another reminder that not joining the euro was a good idea!) has done what it is supposed to do and act as a shock absorber...



but... provided we take the sensible option.....

The sensible option that most leave voters wouldn't be happy with (due to be almost certain need of unlimited free movement for access to the single market).

Basically it's saying as long as almost nothing changes from the status quo we will be ok. If it does then things won't be as rosy! :p

I'm still remembering the days when we were all laughing about America having to choose between trump and Hillary. Now we* have similar options.

*well, we don't, only a couple of hundred housand people do - less representation than the supposed undemocratic EU. Ahh, irony. :(
 
The sensible option that most leave voters wouldn't be happy with (due to be almost certain need of unlimited free movement for access to the single market).

I'm not sure that 'most' is correct... it is the option that would be OK for a decent portion of voters from both sides... it isn't necessarily almost certain that no deal can be made re: immigration and though immigration was a significant issue but I wouldn't go so far as to say the majority of leave voters wouldn't be happy

Basically it's saying as long as almost nothing changes from the status quo we will be ok. If it does then things won't be as rosy! :p

Not really... brexit is a rather big change from the status quo regardless but having something resembling an EEA type deal would be useful in the short term... not to mention joining the EFTA gives access to various existing EFTA trade agreements with Korea, Canada, Gulf Cooperation Council etc.. etc..
 
You never know man. Politicians and honesty do not go together.

Look at how george is talking about how sentiments might change and a second referendum might be held if there is a notable majority. Still opinions must change drastically for that to ever be considered
 
Excellent, yet more public cash for the big consultancies/accountants. :rolleyes:

Britain turns to private sector for complex Brexit talks
Britain seeks consultants to bridge trade negotiator gap with Brussels

Britain is turning to the private sector to prepare for Brexit, seeking to second consultants to boost a civil service with almost no experience of complex trade negotiations.

Sir Jeremy Heywood, the country’s top civil servant, has held talks with companies including accountants EY and KPMG, and the consultants McKinsey, as he prepares for a negotiation with Brussels described by outgoing prime minister David Cameron as “the most important task the British civil service has undertaken in decades”.

The government is believed to have estimated that it needs between 700 and 750 extra staff to negotiate not just with the EU but with the other countries with which the bloc has trade deals.

That's going to cost us a few quid.

https://next.ft.com/content/7ccfd858-41e0-11e6-b22f-79eb4891c97d
 
Probably cheaper than the £8.5bn we send to the EU though eh ;)

That £8.5billion isn't going to go anywhere near as far as you think it is. It will, at the very least, be totally absorbed by additional government expenditure incurred as a result of leaving the EU. There will be very little, if anything, left over for public services, despite what was said during the campaign.
 
Yeah I've seen that from other sources. Slowed up growth if we join the EEA, negative recession of 2 percent if we don't.

So it all comes down to whether May gets in or Leadsom.

I'm not so sure May is a good choice, her hints at using people as leverage/hostages I doubt will go down as well as she thinks.
 
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