Brexit thread - what happens next

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They have been asked through a poll and were pretty clear. Of course they need to be asked to make it official. However it is clearly going to be May.
Do you have a link to this poll? It was stated on last nights 10pm news that there's nothing between the two female candidates at grass root level.
 
And that process is likely to get much simpler if we start making a deal with Australia and New Zealand (and possibly Canada) as politicians over there have already started mentioning.

As for the EU it isn't clear that skilled people would be affected much certainly not the point where it becomes complicated and expensive.

I'd be amazed if skilled people couldn't migrate to Europe still. I agree it will still be possible but it'll involve months, money and lots of paperwork just like it requires for, say, Americans to move to France. Why wouldn't it?

That's what free movement did - got rid of that red tape. Of course people can move without free movement but it's expensive, time consuming and obviously self selecting on behalf of the receiving country, as is their right.

You can't just randomly retire to Australia or Florida in quite the same way as you can to Spain or France.
 
Do you find it surprising that EEA immigrants are more likely to have a university degree than the average Brit?


Not really, most people moving here from the EU are young and therefore more likely to have a degree, we have an older population that are less likely to have a degree. It doesn't detract from what I said. Plenty of well off people retire abroad from here and don't have degrees.
 
[TW]Fox;29742817 said:
I'd be amazed if skilled people couldn't migrate to Europe still. I agree it will still be possible but it'll involve months, money and lots of paperwork just like it requires for, say, Americans to move to France. Why wouldn't it?

because no one wants that for a start... the EU wants freedom of movement and the UK wants some restrictions... for the results of a negotiation to go beyond what the UK wants and to the opposite of what the EU wants would be rather bizzare.

That's what free movement did - got rid of that red tape. Of course people can move without free movement but it's expensive, time consuming and obviously self selecting on behalf of the receiving country, as is their right.

Not particularly, we had fairly easy movement in Europe pre-Maastricht, you just needed a job offer. Certainly not months of waiting and needless bureaucracy.
 
Do you have a link to this poll? It was stated on last nights 10pm news that there's nothing between the two female candidates at grass root level.

Here you go. May trounces all comers.

But remember David Davis was widely expected to beat David Cameron until Cameron's conference performance. The idea of not bothering with an election because an early poll makes the result seem obvious is utterly bizarre.
 
[TW]Fox;29742817 said:
I'd be amazed if skilled people couldn't migrate to Europe still. I agree it will still be possible but it'll involve months, money and lots of paperwork just like it requires for, say, Americans to move to France. Why wouldn't it?

And it may influence your chances of recruitment in any case. And that doesn't cover the right to work. And a visa may, or may not, let your partner move with you - particularly if they don't have a job themselves. And you have no security if you lose your job or time to hunt for a job if your contract ends.

And, of course, that's only getting a job; it doesn't cover other benefits of free movement like the right to study anywhere in Europe on the same terms as the locals.

The idea that losing freedom of movement won't make us less free is utterly bizarre.
 
It looks like support for a referendum in Denmark, Finland and Sweden has fallen with more of the populace now for EU rather than against.

I was assured that there would be knock on effect?

More lies it seems...
 
It looks like support for a referendum in Denmark, Finland and Sweden has fallen with more of the populace now for EU rather than against.

I was assured that there would be knock on effect?

More lies it seems...

They must have seen how well the £ is doing, bouncing right back.
 
It looks like support for a referendum in Denmark, Finland and Sweden has fallen with more of the populace now for EU rather than against.

I was assured that there would be knock on effect?

More lies it seems...

Yes anything that doesn't come to immediate fruition is a lie. Yawn.
 
Yes anything that doesn't come to immediate fruition is a lie. Yawn.

True dat...on the day of the result when the pound dropped and the FTSE sank my Facebook inbox was bombarded with "I told you so" messages from my socially liberal middle-class friends. Over the past week it turned from a trickle to nothing today since both have recovered somewhat.
 
True dat...on the day of the result when the pound dropped and the FTSE sank my Facebook inbox was bombarded with "I told you so" messages from my socially liberal middle-class friends. Over the past week it turned from a trickle to nothing today since both have recovered somewhat.

Its a bit early to be crowing either way. We are in for a bumpy ride for a while. :)
 
It looks like support for a referendum in Denmark, Finland and Sweden has fallen with more of the populace now for EU rather than against.

I was assured that there would be knock on effect?

More lies it seems...

So they have changed their minds after a weeks turmoil of the brexit vote?
 
True dat...on the day of the result when the pound dropped and the FTSE sank my Facebook inbox was bombarded with "I told you so" messages from my socially liberal middle-class friends. Over the past week it turned from a trickle to nothing today since both have recovered somewhat.

Is this some sort of new meaning of the word 'recovered'?

Today:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...hange-rate-brexit-eu-referendum-a7120651.html

It remains amusing how the most vocal don't seem to realise that the pound falling has a positive effect on the FTSE100 as much of the income from it's constituent firms are in foreign currencies. Therefore it props it up more than it otherwise would have as a result of this. I wonder how the FSTE250 is doing? Oh, on it's way back into the toilet I see.
 
True dat...on the day of the result when the pound dropped and the FTSE sank my Facebook inbox was bombarded with "I told you so" messages from my socially liberal middle-class friends. Over the past week it turned from a trickle to nothing today since both have recovered somewhat.

This was basically common knowledge, no one sensible who voted Leave would've denied any economic impacts. It's just we care more about where our country will be in 10 years than 10 weeks
 
This was basically common knowledge, no one sensible who voted Leave would've denied any economic impacts. It's just we care more about where our country will be in 10 years than 10 weeks

Ah yes, it was astute economic forecasting for the long term that drove the 52%. Good shout.
 
This was basically common knowledge, no one sensible who voted Leave would've denied any economic impacts. It's just we care more about where our country will be in 10 years than 10 weeks

Where do you see us in 1 year, or two years?
As what point in the next 10 years do you see us 'better off'?

I note the pound has taken a further drubbing. Slow decline as predicted for a while yet.
 
[TW]Fox;29742958 said:
Ah yes, it was astute economic forecasting for the long term that drove the 52%. Good shout.

No, it was wanting to completely run our own affairs and have sensible immigration numbers. No one can predict what will happen long term, hopefully we should have our own trade deals in place though so we could end up in a better state than had we stayed.
 
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