10 police officers shot by snipers at BLM protest in Dallas

is it time this happened though? Is it time the people stood up to the hateful racism that swamps the us police force?


Is this now the time something will get done?

I don't think the families of the five people who went to work and never came back will ever think it's about time innocent people got executed in the street, no.
 
From what I read, He told the Cop that he had a Gun while reaching into his pocket!

This was never going to end well! :(

Especially where one has an African American Talking to a Chinese American where the subtleties of English nuance will likely be lost on both parties.

:rolleyes: yeah this is america where MILLIONS of people have legal weapons on them - its standard procedure to let a cop know if your carrying one when your stopped, I'm in the UK and know this, let alone a cop in the USA............obviously this idiot decided to shoot him! :mad:

The cop should go on death row for murder, it was totally unjustified.

Also he was reaching for his ID not a gun anyway.
 
Racism is everywhere but it tends to be less of a problem in time, as society advances. The fact so many people carry is the main problem here. It puts policemen on guard and thus more likely to make mistakes, it gives maniacs easy access to assault weapons. These tragedies are the norm now..

Nail on head.

The precise problem is that, within certain neighborhoods, gun crime is rampant and people think nothing of shooting at the police. Given that police officers aren't keen on dying for the job, this tends to prompt them to shoot first. As a result, innocent people get killed.

In this situation, how are the police supposed to fix the problem? By being more cautious with the use of their weapons, even if that means an increase in fatalities on their own side? Who wants to die for their job?

The Black community in the US has a very clear chip on its shoulder. Solving this problem is really quite simple - stop shooting at people. If police officers aren't in constant danger then most of them will stop shooting people, and the ones that don't stop will quickly run out of excuses and be dealt with accordingly.
 
The black man that was shot (Alton Sterling) was a convicted paedophile and felon, yet everyone is mourning him and making out he was some fine, upstanding gentleman. I doubt people would have been quite so nice when he was first convicted though...

I haven't seen anyone suggest he was a fine upstanding gentleman, everyone is rightly claiming he was innocent at the point he got shot. Some people I am sure do think paedophiles should be executed but if they are then it should follow a fair and open trial. It shouldn't be they get murdered by being shot point blank by a police officer who has pinned him down.
 
The world is quick to outcry the death of a convicted criminal illegally in possession of a concealed firearm he was alleged to have just used to threaten someone, but five innocent people are executed in the street because of the job they do and the uniform they wear, and the world talks about how it's about time, and to be expected.

Spot on.

RIP victims.
 
its also to do with the overall mindeset of the police over there..because of the prevalance of guns, any police officer having any contact with a member of the public knows theres a chance they might be carrying a firearm..so they are already wary, so trigger happy before you even speak to the person you are dealing with...no wonder its a disaster

so now the police have a rep for shooting people so people then appear nervous when dealing with an already jumpy officer!!

its a vicious circle
 
lol at the notion that people should consider 'not being murdered because of their skin colour' to be a position of privilege.
 
The Black community in the US has a very clear chip on its shoulder. Solving this problem is really quite simple - stop shooting at people. If police officers aren't in constant danger then most of them will stop shooting people, and the ones that don't stop will quickly run out of excuses and be dealt with accordingly.

Oh ffs this is not a 'Black culture' problem. What is it with some you and the obsession to group people together based on their race, ethnicity or religion?
 
:rolleyes: yeah this is america where MILLIONS of people have legal weapons on them - its standard procedure to let a cop know if your carrying one when your stopped, I'm in the UK and know this, let alone a cop in the USA............obviously this idiot decided to shoot him! :mad:

The cop should go on death row for murder, it was totally unjustified.

Also he was reaching for his ID not a gun anyway.

Like I said, there was plenty of opportunity for misunderstanding here.

If it had been me I would have kept my hands firmly on the steering wheel, told the cop that my driving license, my Gun license, and my Gun (in that order) were in my jacket pocket and not moved a muscle until told to do so!

Announcing that you have a Gun while reaching into your pocket is really not a good idea when confronted by an armed cop.
 
Oh ffs this is not a 'Black culture' problem. What is it with some you and the obsession to group people together based on their race, ethnicity or religion?

I'm not. I'm referencing the outcry by the Black community, who are suggesting that this is a race problem.

It is a cultural and social problem, but not one that is specifically Black. I don't believe I suggested it was?
 
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There is no justifying the police actions leading to innocent deaths and protection of the officers who have caused them. But, we're also seeing the problem when the population can easily go and get themselves armed. Innocent officers have now been injured or killed and civilians could have equally been caught up. This is a huge mess that needs sorting before things really get out of hand.

Obama described it well. This isn't only a black problem.
 
Got any evidence to support that view as everything I've read supports their claims especially in 2015.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...94563e-fa74-11e5-80e4-c381214de1a3_story.html

7 times more likely and even the posts data suggested a disparity but lower at twice as likely. We're not talking about overall black shootings but police vs civilian instances. There is clearly an issue but I'd suggest as usual the main issue is the prevalence of guns and subconscious bias that officers are probably more worried and more on edge for being shot by a black person. I'd hate to be an officer in America but the videos earlier this week were disturbing and I'd suggest some officers are more trigger happy than others.

Readily available on the net. I am on phone so wont be digging out data but another poster above has stated he has seen the same facts as well. There has been an increase in shooting black people by the police because of increased hostility against them (the police) and incidentally since black lives matter started becoming an open hate and racist campaign.

Black on black crime is the highest prevalence. Half of all crime (violent) the perp is black. Not bad for just over 10% population. The rap and hip hop videos would be proud!
 
:rolleyes: yeah this is america where MILLIONS of people have legal weapons on them - its standard procedure to let a cop know if your carrying one when your stopped, I'm in the UK and know this, let alone a cop in the USA............obviously this idiot decided to shoot him! :mad:

The cop should go on death row for murder, it was totally unjustified.

Also he was reaching for his ID not a gun anyway.

You've made a decision that someone should die based on a small piece of evidence, without the full facts. The incident was not captured on video, only the aftermath was. You only know what his girlfriend says happened. You only have one side of the story.

I'm not saying whether the cop was wrong or right. It's far too early to say that, but the world has been whipped up into such a frenzy, and been fed the idea that it must have been because of the colour if his skin, that it almost seems acceptable to some that five totally innocent, completely unrelated people have now been murdered in the streets.
 
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What an awful mess and I just don't see how it's ever going to improve.

I don't buy that this is a "black culture" problem (as if there's a single black culture). This is an American culture problem - inequality, institutional racism and a fetishisation of guns.

RIP the victims.
 
I'm not. I'm referencing the outcry by the Black community, who are suggesting that this is a race problem.

It is a cultural and social problem, but not one that is specifically Black. I don't believe I suggested it was?

It is a race problem though, not specifically black as it applies almost as much to people from a Hispanic background American cops are simply shooting to many people from ethnic backgrounds.

The rules of engagement are all wrong, that fact someone has effectively been shot for having a broken tail light is scary!
 
You've made a decision that someone should die based on a small piece of evidence, without the full facts. The incident was not captured on video, only the aftermath was. You only know what his girlfriend says happened. You only have one side of the story.

I'm not saying whether the cop was wrong or right. It's far too early to say that, but the world has been whipped up into such a frenzy, and been fed the idea that it must have been because of the colour if his skin, that it almost seems acceptable that five totally innocent, completely unrelated people have now been murdered in the streets.

thankfully the worst we can expect in this country when we get pulled over is a witty or sarcastic comment!
 
lol at the notion that people should consider 'not being murdered because of their skin colour' to be a position of privilege.

Yeah, amazing the **** so called intelligent people come out with. Messed up situation there overall.
 
What an awful mess and I just don't see how it's ever going to improve.

I don't buy that this is a "black culture" problem (as if there's a single black culture). This is an American culture problem - inequality, institutional racism and a fetishisation of guns.

RIP the victims.

Its a bit of both. A professor did a study on the IQ and attainment of black people in the US who were - to be charitable - receptive to the culture that is promoted (guns, violence, rape, killing, school is not kool and drugs etc). He found that in Germany where there was no black subculture (perhaps best describe it as a subculture) there was nothing outside of normal differences seen across black and white.

In the US there is a notable drop that can be attributed to a subculture of the above.

Inequality of course comes into it. It always does. Poor white families are prone to more violence than more affluent families. There's nothing new about that.

What we are seeing here is a bunch of black people being violent for the sake of it. You cannot reason with them and discuss facts either because their narrative is all anti-white. I would say from seeing videos on the net that black people are far more racist than whites. Case in point is the knockout game. Media covered it up but so called crackpot journalists noted the reality and also published one youth saying it was a game to attack white people.

Edit: Ever see any rap videos, Jamaican music videos?
 
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