Brexit thread - what happens next

Caged · 10 Jul 2016 at 00:37

There is no way you would post a Big Lebowski gif and also have no idea of what "The Dude abides" is a reference to. So I'm voting for 'bad troll', Bob.

V F · 10 Jul 2016 at 00:41

Raikiri said:
Pat is a reference to Patrick Bateman, from American Psycho. Someone else that does't understand empathy, also a film well worth watching.

I certainly wouldn't watch it again. It was bad enough the first time.

Bonjour · 10 Jul 2016 at 00:42

Film bad. Book good.

Mynight · 10 Jul 2016 at 00:43

It's a great film. Although did make psycho synonymous with mad killer

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Books better though.

Raikiri · 10 Jul 2016 at 00:44

Book is definitely better, but it's far from a bad film. Wouldn't want to give Itchy ideas though...

Greebo · 10 Jul 2016 at 00:48

Werewolf said:
Presumably getting rid of all that pesky EU led regulation will allow British cement companies to ramp up production to unheard of levels and undercut Europe and China even allowing for transport costs to get it to markets where the is already production capacity enough for them to have been expoirting it.

I'd imagine it would probably only take either the utter devaluation of the currency, or throwing out most of the regulations about safety, working times and wages.

Leadsom has already said for small business she want no maternity, unfair dismissal, minimum wages, working time directive.

So we will be able to compete fine with our low exchange rate and people working 80 hrs a week for two pound an hour.

Mynight · 10 Jul 2016 at 00:49

Greebo said:
Leadsom has already said for small business she want no maternity, unfair dismissal, minimum wages, working time directive.

So we will be able to compete fine with our low exchange rate and people working 80 hrs a week for two pound an hour.

"In this factory there are 1,000 small companies working here"

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Greebo · 10 Jul 2016 at 01:00

kitch9 said:
The UK cement industry was killed off 20-30 years ago my man we were market leaders, Subtle EU regulation that favored southern EU countries saw to that. The UK's cement industry was the first casualty of the EU power grab.

Ignore the ignorance in the post above, cement is my expertise and the main reason I waited 20 years for my opportunity to vote out.

This day has been long due imo.

Funny I always thought it was the energy crisis in the 70s that started this downturn followed by decades of no investment so we had old inefficient processes?

After the last crash we finally built new more efficient works and we have upped production a lot in the last ten years after 40 years of decline (it was in decline before we even joined the Eu)

Yes the eu regs have hurt but again, just like the steel industry, you can blame the uk government. Cement works should be exempt under eu rules but the uk government chooses to impose the energy tariff on them. What makes you think the uk government will change this when we leave the uk?

So how many years and how much investment will it take into the cement industry to get us back to self sufficient then please?

Plus then many years before we would have decent export quantities?

30 years ? Guess you are going for the long term?

delta0 · 10 Jul 2016 at 10:55

Whilst I doubt Leadsom will get into power and so I doubt we will be in this situation this article is interesting. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/labour-tory-mps-talk
It does suggest that the chance of getting article 50 through parliament is a lot lower than I originally thought. The vast majority of MPs supported remain and this does not appear to have changed.

Bobmunkhouse · 10 Jul 2016 at 11:02

The people who will suffer from this is the poor... London will just deregulate and lower corporate tax...so us southern softys will be fine....god help people who have to do proper jobs with small companies now if we do lose all the EU regulations...work times and rights lowered.....most items will be cheaper to import even with the crappy pound so loss of our subsided industries like farming....

Stretch · 10 Jul 2016 at 11:03

sityeuropa said:
Get some steel.

Yeah, who dares wins Rodney.

Rroff · 10 Jul 2016 at 11:08

Bobmunkhouse said:
The people who will suffer from this is the poor... London will just deregulate and lower corporate tax...so us southern softys will be fine....god help people who have to do proper jobs with small companies now if we do lose all the EU regulations...work times and rights lowered.....most items will be cheaper to import even with the crappy pound so loss of our subsided industries like farming....

It is one of the potentially more likely outcomes and will affect most of the people who voted leave the most :| the potential loss of work time regulations and some other employment rights bothers me the most as I know a few people who will be taken advantage of if this happens.

Bonjour · 10 Jul 2016 at 11:35

delta0 said:
Whilst I doubt Leadsom will get into power and so I doubt we will be in this situation this article is interesting. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/labour-tory-mps-talk
It does suggest that the chance of getting article 50 through parliament is a lot lower than I originally thought. The vast majority of MPs supported remain and this does not appear to have changed.

Maybe they're concerned about losing their seats to the Liberal Democrats, who already occupy that middle ground and have started gearing up for a GA in September, should it occur. They're currently fast-tracking the selection of my local candidate, just in case there's a snap election called.

Bonjour · 10 Jul 2016 at 11:37

Greebo said:
Leadsom has already said for small business she want no maternity, unfair dismissal, minimum wages, working time directive.

So we will be able to compete fine with our low exchange rate and people working 80 hrs a week for two pound an hour.

It's what the working classes are for

datalol-jack · 10 Jul 2016 at 11:43

Bonjour said:
It's what the working classes are for

I BriLeave it's called work ethic, a work ethic of the British kind! IDS must be gleefully dancing to this wondrous Victoriana tune, in whatever dark corner of the Earth he finds himself now. Will he reign at the DWP once again? Time will tell. For now, we've more parliamentary select committees inbound to put some order to this madness: ¡Viva la tecnocracia! And all that.

Caged · 10 Jul 2016 at 11:48

And then the housing crisis can be solved by encouraging employers to supply accommodation blocks next to the place of work.

datalol-jack · 10 Jul 2016 at 12:00

Caged said:
And then the housing crisis can be solved by encouraging employers to supply accommodation blocks next to the place of work.

What a wonderfully vague term.

Auntie Leadsom's rent-a-container business coming right up!

Btone · 10 Jul 2016 at 12:24

Caged said:
And then the housing crisis can be solved by encouraging employers to supply accommodation blocks next to the place of work.

and what wrong with letting them sleep beside their work machines, and a tea card coming round once every 12 hours to feed them

datalol-jack · 10 Jul 2016 at 12:26

Btone said:
and what wrong with letting them sleep beside their work machines, and a tea card coming round once every 12 hours to feed them

Food is an optional extra. An imported extra at that!

wildman · 10 Jul 2016 at 12:27

delta0 said:
Whilst I doubt Leadsom will get into power and so I doubt we will be in this situation this article is interesting. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/labour-tory-mps-talk
It does suggest that the chance of getting article 50 through parliament is a lot lower than I originally thought. The vast majority of MPs supported remain and this does not appear to have changed.

I posted this about 50 + pages ago but I don't think anyone bothered looking at it. This is the spread of MP's who were for remain or leave up to the day of the vote.

If this has to go through a parliamentary vote it would be interesting to see if the MP's vote in line with what their constituencies voted or if they vote the way they would have themselves.