Not the point - you didn't like the country the way it was so voted to Leave. Why didn't you just leave instead?
That's what you're suggesting isn't it? That if people don't like the way things are at the moment they should leave?
How will Brexit affect you and your family personally?
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Not the point - you didn't like the country the way it was so voted to Leave. Why didn't you just leave instead?
That's what you're suggesting isn't it? That if people don't like the way things are at the moment they should leave?
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Seems like Theresa May has previously criticised Europe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Union-terms-Home-Secretary-Theresa-warns.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Union-terms-Home-Secretary-Theresa-warns.html
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I am a researcher in cancer at Cambridge university so expect to lose my job because of this:
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...projects-because-of-post-brexit-funding-fears
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...projects-because-of-post-brexit-funding-fears
don't worry I am sure the usual morons will come in here soon and tell you to re-train as a plumber and something about you having more sovereignty.
cause we dont have free movement with countries not in the eu?
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Sorry to hear that.
Many researchers knew the outcome would be detrimental on many fronts. I am unsurprising at the hesitation to collaborate. The UK does not offer anything special in terms of research: we certainly dont produce more talented researchers, our funding is lacklustre compared to many other countries and if we obtain the border control people are pushing for, many multinational research groups will decide that the UK is too much trouble than it is worth to collaborate with. Our biggest asset is the prestige of our science universities, which will slip if the best EU students lose their funding to come here.
I no longer work in physics but many friends and mentors still do. It is unfortunate that British science is heading this direction.
Many researchers knew the outcome would be detrimental on many fronts. I am unsurprising at the hesitation to collaborate. The UK does not offer anything special in terms of research: we certainly dont produce more talented researchers, our funding is lacklustre compared to many other countries and if we obtain the border control people are pushing for, many multinational research groups will decide that the UK is too much trouble than it is worth to collaborate with. Our biggest asset is the prestige of our science universities, which will slip if the best EU students lose their funding to come here.
I no longer work in physics but many friends and mentors still do. It is unfortunate that British science is heading this direction.
no, research bodies can pick and chose who and where they place and staff their projects. If they are concerned at lack of funding that will be available from one group / set of parties they can pull the plug and move it anywhere they like. We do this all the time and will be relocating most of our pipeline R&D projects back to our facilities in Germany and Italy specifically because of the uncertainty on funding. Projects already started here will be seen through to at least completion of the phase they are on and then another decision will be made if they stay here or get transferred to our EU facilities depending on what the outcomes are for the UK moving forward. Most of our multinational post docs / researchers are already asking for relocation so a lot of teams are going to be wound up anyway.
in the debate about science it was argued that while the science groups get funding from Europe we were giving them more money than we were getting back. so by going alone we could just give our science groups money and be up.
whether that's true or not is whether you believe politicians
whether that's true or not is whether you believe politicians
On a news report (may have been the bbc) the figure i saw said that in a 5 year period we contributed £5.4 billion and received £8.8 billion.
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doubtful, there will be other services that take priority over funding a bunch of high foreheads in research institutes and the most likely outcome will be that our science output takes a hit or there is a massive brain drain to the US / EU
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I am doubtful of its truth and even if it was, it is not the amount of funding that is important but the security of the funding that allowed for safe mid-long term investment. The EU is also responsible for the massive amount of talent we have come over to study and stay on as researchers here. Many local research teams are bulked up by Europeans that would not had the funding to come and develop their education here to that degree if it were not for the EU. We end up benefiting massively from their contribution to our projects, especially since we do not output all that many ourselves and few of us stay to do research.
Why shouldn't an independent UK continue to fund UK scientists in the UK?
lets add that to the list of things that need to come from that tree fiddy
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The UK has been neglecting science. With cuts coming our way, i dont see how we would continue to receive the same amount of funding if we become independent of the EU.
Do you think the UK pick up the bill for the funding the EU currently gives us?
Do you think the government will continue to fund local research directly at the same rate, even with cuts coming in and previous history of funding neglect?
Do you think the government will start its own foreign student programs encouraging aspiring and talented EU students to come and study here by funding their education, so we can benefit from their contribution after they qualify?
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