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1080p 144hz G-sync vs. 1440p 60hz
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People need to get a grip and learn before they talk about things they don't understand at all.
You do not need 144FPS to make a 144hz screen worthwhile, you don't need over 60fps for a 144Hz screen to be superior. A 144hz screen is significantly more responsive with way way less motion blur from the screen itself. Even running 60FPS a 144hz will give a significantly sharper image with much less ghosting/screen blur. This is even apparent at the desktop scrolling a webpage or any document, less blur in the words, sharper feel to everything.
1440p/144hz screen prices are a joke and artificial/manufactured. It's like gaming stuff, normal mouse £20, gaming mouse with RGB LEDs £40 even with the same button layout. Because it's a gaming screen with deemed to be gaming features(like I said, I wouldn't buy a 60hz screen for a purely desktop computer myself) the industry has cottoned on to a set of users who will just pay whatever is asked.
I got my 1440p/144hz freesync Acer screen for £260 when it was going for £420-450 at launch. Just waited for a sale, that price implies what price that screen was really selling to retailers for and the huge markup going on because gamers apparently buy anything. Same as these £1000 monitors with frankly woeful specifications. As soon as g-sync is tacked on a screen costs £300 more at the high end when it's basically £10 of extra components... if that.
I'd say, 1080p 100hz+ if you can't afford a higher refresh 1440p. A ultra wide 1080p while not sharper does provide more real estate for side by side pages which is great for desktop work.
1440p/144hz screens should all be in the £250-350 range for the ultra high end stuff and £350-500 range should be getting you ultra wide 1440p screens.
When you can see the price of a 4k screen or the price difference between 1080 and 1440, or 1080/60hz and 1080/144hz, that you see the 1440/144hz is completely out of whack. As always, if everyone looked at the prices and laughed them off, costs would come down, but currently consumers don't use logic and pay ridiculous and unfair prices rather than wait for them to come down.
You do not need 144FPS to make a 144hz screen worthwhile, you don't need over 60fps for a 144Hz screen to be superior. A 144hz screen is significantly more responsive with way way less motion blur from the screen itself. Even running 60FPS a 144hz will give a significantly sharper image with much less ghosting/screen blur. This is even apparent at the desktop scrolling a webpage or any document, less blur in the words, sharper feel to everything.
1440p/144hz screen prices are a joke and artificial/manufactured. It's like gaming stuff, normal mouse £20, gaming mouse with RGB LEDs £40 even with the same button layout. Because it's a gaming screen with deemed to be gaming features(like I said, I wouldn't buy a 60hz screen for a purely desktop computer myself) the industry has cottoned on to a set of users who will just pay whatever is asked.
I got my 1440p/144hz freesync Acer screen for £260 when it was going for £420-450 at launch. Just waited for a sale, that price implies what price that screen was really selling to retailers for and the huge markup going on because gamers apparently buy anything. Same as these £1000 monitors with frankly woeful specifications. As soon as g-sync is tacked on a screen costs £300 more at the high end when it's basically £10 of extra components... if that.
I'd say, 1080p 100hz+ if you can't afford a higher refresh 1440p. A ultra wide 1080p while not sharper does provide more real estate for side by side pages which is great for desktop work.
1440p/144hz screens should all be in the £250-350 range for the ultra high end stuff and £350-500 range should be getting you ultra wide 1440p screens.
When you can see the price of a 4k screen or the price difference between 1080 and 1440, or 1080/60hz and 1080/144hz, that you see the 1440/144hz is completely out of whack. As always, if everyone looked at the prices and laughed them off, costs would come down, but currently consumers don't use logic and pay ridiculous and unfair prices rather than wait for them to come down.
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That's your opinion and obviously a lot of people have a different one. One can wait for prices to come down or just buy whatever they want and enjoy it asap. It's that simple.
You keep waiting while I keep using it. I don't see it as unfair at all and it's not like you don't have options, there is stuff available at every price point.
It may not be the best quality but we all get what we can afford.
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current x34 and PG348Q are 3440x1440 100hz. Far better than 60hz and to be honest hardly noticeable over a 144hz monitor.
The superwide is far better in my opinion.
With regards to OP, i'd get 1440p 144hz g-sync. A single 1070 will push the higher frames on there with tuned settings. Faster than a single Ti and my old Ti (single card) did well at 1440p.
I'd reccommend saving and getting a Dell S2716DG which is around £500 now.
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It's not a case of not having the money. Technically I could go and buy several of those ridiculous £950 monitors someone else was showing off about - however I'd rather not empty my savings account! I put my budget at around £250 because it's what I'm comfortable spending.
I use the 980Ti with a 27" 1440p IPS @ 60hz. It's pretty much the sweet spot. Performance wise 980Ti and the 1070 are very similar when OC'd. I don't feel the need for more than 60fps, maybe I am just good at games 
though I don't consider myself to be a pro gamer.
I probably spend 8-12 hours a day looking at the screen playing games, watching the odd movie/TV, programing and other work related activities. As such I would recommend IPS if you can find one within your budget.
Another consideration since you have a 1070 is HDR which should be arriving next year though I have no idea what pricing will be like.
though I don't consider myself to be a pro gamer.I probably spend 8-12 hours a day looking at the screen playing games, watching the odd movie/TV, programing and other work related activities. As such I would recommend IPS if you can find one within your budget.
Another consideration since you have a 1070 is HDR which should be arriving next year though I have no idea what pricing will be like.
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Pretty certain I'm going to go for the Dell U2515H. Looks like the best 1440p for gaming around the £250 mark and I reckon it'll be a beast for CAD and Revit. Cheers for the advice, sorry to let down the 144mhz fans.
Noob question - will the Displayport connection allow me use USB devices like mice via the monitor rather than the PC? This would be very useful due to lack of desk space.
Noob question - will the Displayport connection allow me use USB devices like mice via the monitor rather than the PC? This would be very useful due to lack of desk space.
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Pretty certain I'm going to go for the Dell U2515H. Looks like the best 1440p for gaming around the £250 mark and I reckon it'll be a beast for CAD and Revit. Cheers for the advice, sorry to let down the 144mhz fans.
Noob question - will the Displayport connection allow me use USB devices like mice via the monitor rather than the PC? This would be very useful due to lack of desk space.
I have this monitor and have overclocked it to 75hz so 75 fps on v sync. It also has a fast mode to reduce input lag. Yes you can put a mouse in it.
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So after reading through this thread I'm still not sure what is suggested type of monitor is in the £250 bracket.
For an NVidia user, it seems that for that money you can get either.
upto 29" 2560*1080 super wide 75Hz
upto 27" 2560*1440 60Hz
24" 1920*1080 GSync 144Hz (£10 over budget)
24" 3840*2160 60Hz
28" 3840*2160 60Hz (£40 over budget) too much in my opinion.
Yes I haven't listed freesync capabilities as for me personally that is irrelevant as I'm using a NVidia GPU.
So as an NVidia user is GSync worth it over a higher resolution?
For an NVidia user, it seems that for that money you can get either.
upto 29" 2560*1080 super wide 75Hz
upto 27" 2560*1440 60Hz
24" 1920*1080 GSync 144Hz (£10 over budget)
24" 3840*2160 60Hz
28" 3840*2160 60Hz (£40 over budget) too much in my opinion.
Yes I haven't listed freesync capabilities as for me personally that is irrelevant as I'm using a NVidia GPU.
So as an NVidia user is GSync worth it over a higher resolution?
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I came to the same realisation and have just bought the 60hz Dell, have taken a long weekend off work so can't wait to get my hands on it.
I'm sure 144hz 1440p is great but at almost twice the price I just didn't want to stretch that far.
Myself I had a 1920*1200 60Hz but it has just gone pop, so I'm now on a 1280*1024 14" horrible thing. What I want is a 28/32" 4k 120Hz but they wont be available till much latter in the year, maybe even next year and they will cost a good amount. but with mine going pop I have to make a decision about a new monitor now, and the budget is £250 give or take a little.
I currently have a 970, with the view to get a 1070 when I can decide which one to get.
I currently have a 970, with the view to get a 1070 when I can decide which one to get.
Thanks. You happy enough with the gaming performance?
In terms of gaming performance all fantastic apart from one big let down, the person in front of the screen!!!
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Hehe, having not used keyboard and mouse to game since the early days of Counterstrike Source I believe I may have the same issue.
Hehe, having not used keyboard and mouse to game since the early days of Counterstrike Source I believe I may have the same issue.
If you play with a controller then i'd just go 60hz 1440p
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If you play with a controller then i'd just go 60hz 1440p
Knew that might get a reaction! I can do keyboard and mouse though, wasted much of my teenage years playing the original Planetside. I'm sure it'll come back to me quickly.
I'm looking forward to returning to keyboard and mouse, for fast paced games like Doom the controller just isn't agile enough even as someone with over a decade of console play. Also I have a whole catalogue of games on Steam I haven't been able to play because the text is illegible on a television from the sofa e.g. Civilization 5, Cities Skylines, Kerbal Space programme to name a few.
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