Homeopathy May be banned in vets - Outrage!

[SexyGreyFox]

Homeopathy and the NHS

The NHS spends approximately £4 million a year on homeopathy.

The three NHS homeopathic hospitals have been a part of the NHS since it began in 1948. They currently treat tens of thousands of patients each year who are referred by GPs, PCTs and NHS specialists.

Royal London Hospital for Integrated Medicine

The Royal London Hospital for Integrated Medicine (formerly the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital) holds 27,000 NHS patient appointments a year. All clinics are led by consultants, doctors and other registered healthcare professionals who have received additional training in complementary medicine.

Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital

The Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital also treats thousands of patients every year. The hospital offers the only chronic fatigue syndrome service, commissioned by NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde and has helped many patients with this debilitating chronic illness.

Bristol Homeopathic Hospital

At the Bristol Homeopathic Hospital, referrals come mainly from oncologists referring patients suffering side-effects from cancer treatments.
GPs and homeopathy

In the UK there are over 400 GPs practising homeopathy who are regulated by the GMC and are members of the Faculty of Homeopathy. They treat around 200,000 NHS patients per year with homeopathy. GPs are able to refer NHS patients to qualified and regulated homeopaths and most private health insurance companies and cash-plans consider homeopathic treatment a good investment.

 

[Angilion]

Nobody treats anybody with homeopathy because homeopathy can't treat anything.

It's 2016. Why are we allowing magic to be passed off as medicine at all, let alone spending public money on it? It's dangerous and it's a waste of money.

 

[Haggisman]

snip.

I see you've mastered the ctrl-c -> control-v technique, excellent work young padawan

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I see you've mastered the ctrl-c -> control-v technique, excellent work young padawan

And?
Your point?

 

[Avenged7Fold]

Nobody treats anybody with homeopathy because homeopathy can't treat anything.

It's 2016. Why are we allowing magic to be passed off as medicine at all, let alone spending public money on it? It's dangerous and it's a waste of money.

At least magic has some showmanship.

They homeopathic practitioners dont even bother trying to pretend that the water they are selling you is something other than water!

 

[Deleted member 66701]

If alternative medicine worked then it would just b called medicine.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

If alternative medicine worked then it would just b called medicine.

"By definition, alternative medicine has either not been proved to work or been proved not to work. Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine." (Tim Minchin, 'Storm')

End of debate...

Tim Minchin agrees, whoever he is!

 

[Nitefly]

'Alternative medicine'. If it worked, it would just be 'medicine'.

 

[FoxEye]

If alternative medicine worked then it would just b called medicine.

In other countries it is

Take Traditional Chinese Medicine, for example. I often thought that this would die out as the younger generations became more scientifically inclined.

But, by all accounts (since I don't have first hand knowledge), many young Chinese still believe in TCM. Still believe that the ground bones of (many) endangered species can cure cancer, or give you a boner.

In this country it's definately exploitation of the easily led, but in other places it's a deeply ingrained cultural thing. Wish it would die, because it does real harm, to people and the planet.

 

[lafemmefatale]

The last three posts hurt my brain.

*edit - the last three above the last one.

 

[Nitefly]

It's not about reading the preceding posts, you know.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I don't think anybody has mentioned that if alternative medicine worked it would be called medicine

 

[Sayso]

all im saying is...catnip.

 

[Hodders]

If homeopathy is simply a 'thing' massively diluted with water - aren't we all taking homeopathic remedies every time we drink tap water ?

 

[Glaucus]

If homeopathy is simply a 'thing' massively diluted with water - aren't we all taking homeopathic remedies every time we drink tap water ?

Yep wee and poo, as Tim minchin hasnt been quoted enough.

Take physics and bin it!
Water has memory!
And while its memory of a
long lost drop of onion juice
seems infinite
it somehow forgets
all the poo it's had in it.

 

[Tefal]

The more dumb people to fall to homeopathy the better surely, rest of the species improves.

Usualt the death is of a very small child.

Like that baby that died horribly from exema in Australia because the parents tried to use homeopathy.

They fortuantly got jail.

But thatbwas a child that died as its skin cracked and fell off it.

The fact we have it on the nhs disturbs me

 

[Glaucus]

Thankfully it won't be on NHS for long, now its being challenged by hey are falling like flies. As the trusts have to show its cost effective and they can't, so if they don't change their stance groups can and have taken legal challenges and won. Great thing is using there own report on homeopathy to challenge it, there own report says its not cost effective yet some trusts persist.

However far more things for skeptics and atheists to move on to once that nonses is ended. Trouble is these two groups are not well organised and don't challenge or lobby anywhere like these nonses groups and religions.

Democracy shouldn't work like that where loudest voices generally win, however that's what happens, no where near as bad as the states though.