Caporegime
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Yeah I'm sure the police and judicial system is really going to prosecute people for misogyny that amounts to asking for directions.
Any more hyperbole?
Misogyny
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Yeah I'm sure the police and judicial system is really going to prosecute people for misogyny that amounts to asking for directions.
Any more hyperbole?
Did I say that? No. Any more hyperbole?
What I said is it's badly defined. It can (and will) be applied to situations it shouldn't. It's like hate speech laws - who gets to decide where the line is drawn between hate speech and criticism?
Caporegime
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The CPS. And they aren't generally stupid.
It's generally a good principle that laws should be defined to at least some extent so that people don't have to be concerned about not having any way of knowing if something they do is illegal or not. Particularly when the law is about illegal speech. Obviously, this has a suppressive effect more insidious than open censorship.
That's particularly true when only people in a "wrong" biological group are targetted by a law. Which should never happen anyway, but increasingly is happening and is the whole purpose of this change in the way law is implemented.
no they aren't stupid, but they are generally overworked and under resourced and don't need to waste time on crap like this.
Gimme a yell if youre in manchester for a weekend I'll take you out and get you a fella
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Wish they'd do more about the daily beatings and stabbings in this city. But they are against men, so the lefty county council doesn't see it as priority.
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Seems OK to me. Wolf whistling a woman in public like that is harassment. It is not invited by their behaviour or the context of the fact they are in public going about their ordinary business. In a situation like a bar the context is varied so demonstrating behaviour that signals a sexual interest is more permissible as long as it doesn't step over into physical contact or verbal abuse.
The issue of sexual violence against women is extremely serious and the wider cultural norms of behaviour have an impact on attitudes towards women which to a degree inform the behaviour of those men who assault women. In my experience almost every woman I have met during my own time in mental health treatment had been a victim of some form of sexual assault or rape either as a child or young person. A woman who was very important to me was a rape victim when she was 15 and at 24 she killed herself. These experiences are incredibly damaging to the psyche of people and their impact often echoes through someones entire life. To be raped is oftentimes to have your entire perception and experience of the world inexorably altered and your life path changed for ever. Whilst in itself a whistle might seem like harmless fun it is part of slippy slope that ends in creating the kind of attitudes that perpetuate sexual violence towards women and that is why it is worthwhile in sending the signal that it is not acceptable.
The issue of sexual violence against women is extremely serious and the wider cultural norms of behaviour have an impact on attitudes towards women which to a degree inform the behaviour of those men who assault women. In my experience almost every woman I have met during my own time in mental health treatment had been a victim of some form of sexual assault or rape either as a child or young person. A woman who was very important to me was a rape victim when she was 15 and at 24 she killed herself. These experiences are incredibly damaging to the psyche of people and their impact often echoes through someones entire life. To be raped is oftentimes to have your entire perception and experience of the world inexorably altered and your life path changed for ever. Whilst in itself a whistle might seem like harmless fun it is part of slippy slope that ends in creating the kind of attitudes that perpetuate sexual violence towards women and that is why it is worthwhile in sending the signal that it is not acceptable.
so do you ever behave towards a woman purely because she is a woman?
i can imagine unless you are of a specific minority of the population you do.
Misogyny doesn't have to be perpetrated by men.
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Okay the big question. Is it okay for me to open a door for a woman or am I going to hell?
Whole thing is a load of nonsense. Nothing has changed other than a couple of woman on a power trip. The police are never going to have time to look into such petty things as a wolf whistle and as there are no new laws nothing has changed.
Whole thing is a load of nonsense. Nothing has changed other than a couple of woman on a power trip. The police are never going to have time to look into such petty things as a wolf whistle and as there are no new laws nothing has changed.
Don;t do it. A few years ago i held the door open for a women and she gave me a torrent of abuse about how she didnt need a man to help her and I was putting her and other women down.