The (annoying) people who "get" modern art

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If only people were free to like/dislike art/music/movies/books/plays as they saw fit.

Don't like it? Cool, move on. Maybe even explain why you don't like it. But saying "all modern art is bad" is a ridiculous statement.
 
lafemmefatale said:
Kinda strange how the Weimar Republic saw a massive influx of modern art and with it came prosperity and social progression. Well we all know who came along to denounce modern art as a load of rubbish and then set standards as to what art is and isn't. Was it our good old friend Foxeye? Well, was it?
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I wasn't around in 1939, so I can't take the credit for that one.

Btw, Hitler liked dogs. Ermagerd, anyone who likes dogs is just like Hitler!

You going to have another go at explaining how/why I should appreciate a concrete block in a field? I'm actually interested in seeing where you go with this, but you seem to have wussed out of a real conversation, in preference of going down your usual "I'm so offended, and you're so wrong" diatribe.
 
Raymond Lin said:
If you are going to argue that angle the someone is a better salesman than the OP and he needs to brush up his tongue as well as his paintbrushes.
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I don't care if it's his life's work, he's super famous, and has +20 charisma.

It's a blue canvas with a white stripe. No other discernible features.

It sold for $43 million.

Just.... no. This world makes no sense when things like that can happen.
 
FoxEye said:
I don't care if it's his life's work, he's super famous, and has +20 charisma.

It's a blue canvas with a white stripe. No other discernible features.

It sold for $43 million.

Just.... no. This world makes no sense when things like that can happen.
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It makes perfect sense, it appears just your mind can't comprehend it.
 
FoxEye said:
I wasn't around in 1939, so I can't take the credit for that one.

Btw, Hitler liked dogs. Ermagerd, anyone who likes dogs is just like Hitler!

You going to have another go at explaining how/why I should appreciate a concrete block in a field? I'm actually interested in seeing where you go with this, but you seem to have wussed out of a real conversation, in preference of going down your usual "I'm so offended, and you're so wrong" diatribe.
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Maybe you need to brush up your history skills too. 1933 Enabling Act is what I was referring to. The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is a really good read.

I refuse to be baited into an argument by the way, no matter how much you try and push my buttons. As I, and a few others have stated, why should anyone try and help you to understand when you've made it clear that you're going to be so condescendingly dismissive of it.

Have your little rant. Move on.
 
FoxEye said:
I made the mistake of flicking over to BBC news 24, again (should know better!). They were running one of their awful magazine shows, this one about some "artist" in the states.

The "art" installation was a concrete rectangle in a field of grass. They interviewed some people who'd driven for five hours or something to go see it.

I'm sorry, but what? What kind of mindset do you need to have to interpret a concrete rectangle - about the size of a shipping container - sitting in a field, as art?

Seriously, anybody who classifies this is a work of art, I have no interest in anything that person has to say. Because either they are incredibly gullible, or enjoy being told what to think, or they are deliberately deluding themselves. Either way, if someone thinks a concrete rectangle is art, I have no time for that person (I'm awful, I know).

It's a freakin' field of grass, with a concrete rectangle. How can anyone see it as anything other than a complete waste of time (and concrete!).

Why do people enjoy this kind of thing? Help me, I don't understand.
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I'm not sure what you are complaining about. Mona Lisa is what? Some woman staring at you? Why is that art?

Art is a man made thing that makes some people feel something. If a concrete rectangle in a field of grass makes enough people feel something, it's art, whether or not it makes you feel something. Just like I am sure Mona Lisa makes quite a few people feel bugger all. :)
 
lafemmefatale said:
As I, and a few others have stated, why should anyone try and help you to understand when you've made it clear that you're going to be so condescendingly dismissive of it.

Have your little rant. Move on.
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Maybe, just maybe, there's nothing to understand.

Maybe it's just a concrete block in a field?

Have you ever thought of that? That it is nothing more than a few slabs of concrete, in a field, and that elevating it beyond what it really is makes no sense?
 
I agree with Fox.

Load of nonsense.

But the wealthy have to have SOMETHING to spend their money on, so it might as well be a load of parp where someone can go laughing all the way to the bank at them.
 
If you're genuinely interested to learn more about modern art, the critic Matthew Collings made a good 6 part series for Channel 4 in the late 90s, "This Is Modern Art", it's available on youtube here -
 
FoxEye said:
Maybe, just maybe, there's nothing to understand.

Maybe it's just a concrete block in a field?

Have you ever thought of that? That it is nothing more than a few slabs of concrete, in a field, and that elevating it beyond what it really is makes no sense?
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So if in your opinion, there's nothing to understand, what's the point of the thread?
 
BDEE said:
I agree with Fox.

Load of nonsense.

But the wealthy have to have SOMETHING to spend their money on, so it might as well be a load of parp where someone can go laughing all the way to the bank at them.
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Surprised the mob weren't all over you that they seem to be over Fox. I guess it is one of those bad days.
 
Some serious jimmys being rustled in this thread. The very fact a slab of concrete has elicited such a response from OP suggests it is indeed art. For what is the purpose of art if not to make us think/feel?

I'm beginning to wonder if this thread is an elaborate troll? Is OP going to mount this thread on canvas and claim the ignorance, irony and hypocrisy contained within is "art" representing the modern world perhaps? :D

/Salsa
 
Salsa said:
Some serious jimmys being rustled in this thread. The very fact a slab of concrete has elicited such a response from OP suggests it is indeed art. For what is the purpose of art if not to make us think/feel?

I'm beginning to wonder if this thread is an elaborate troll? Is OP going to mount this thread on canvas and claim the ignorance, irony and hypocrisy contained within is "art" representing the modern world perhaps? :D

/Salsa
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So trolling is art?

What *isn't* art, then? If I roshambo you, is that art? You'd certainly feel something.
 
FoxEye said:
Maybe, just maybe, there's nothing to understand.
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The artist may have had no intention for anyone to 'understand' the work. It's an aesthetic form in a context. Something for contemplation. It is a novel sight (I presume, I haven't a clue what it looks like).
It has made you have a reaction.
 
Raymond Lin said:
It makes perfect sense, it appears just your mind can't comprehend it.
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Sorry I missed this response earlier.

A blue canvas with a white stripe, selling for $43 million, makes sense. Hmm.

Indeed I can't comprehend it. I could have painted that in a few minutes. It would probably look the same had I, or you, or my 13 year old nephew painted it.

So why is it worth $43 million? The answer can't lie in what it *is*. Because what it *is* is effortlessly reproducible by any one of us, no matter how artistically challenged.

So the value must lie in the fact that a certain, well-known "artist" created it. So basically it's an extension of "celebrity culture". The painting itself is worthless, but the circumstances of its creation make it worth $43 million.

Is that correct?
 
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