German train 'axe attack'

[Xordium]

Reminds me of a Blackadder quote:

 

[RaohNS]

Until recently, property in London it seems.

That is likely to be a tiny portion of it. What underhand kickbacks are going on beyond the property portfolios?

 

[Stretch]

There is a fantastic graphic that I have posted before and can no longer find showing the students of I believe Cairo university.

In the 60's / 70's all the women are in skirts and blouses and not a headscarf in sight. Then in the 80's you see a couple of scarfs and conservative clothing the 90's more and then the 00's every woman has a scarf and is covered from ankle to wrist.

There was absolutely a change that happened where these countries were engaging with western secularism and then in the 90's rejected it for an older identity.

It was Kabul university in Afghanistan iirc.

ISIS claiming responsibly for this one to.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...r-as-fighter-for-islamist-group-a7144156.html

They'll be claiming responsibility for Brexit soon.

 

[scorza]

It was Kabul university in Afghanistan iirc.

Nah I think he's right it was Egypt, a street in Cairo in the 1970s where everyone looks western and happy, and the same street today where women are all in ninja costumes and men are in pyjamas looking miserable. There's also a picture from Kabul in the 1970s but my understanding is that it's slightly misleading in that the picture was taken in the diplomatic quarter and the people in the photo were young diplomatic staff working there there. Something's definitely going on, I'm not entirely sure what, but something is spreading this jihadi cancer around the world and we need to figure out who is behind it.

 

[Xordium]

and we need to figure out who is behind it.

Oh I don't think we do I think we have a very good idea who is behind it as a broad movement.

 

[Cosimo]

They'll be claiming responsibility for Brexit soon.

Waits for Nigel bin Farage to make an appearance, Abu Brexit...

 

[Washout]

As much as the picture of all these terrorists being uneducated, disaffected youth with a chip on their shoulder about western society is an understandable, and an even comfortable, image of who these people are and why they do it...it doesn't always seem to bear out though.

What I then find confusing and hard to rationalise is the number of people we see from middle class fairly affluent backgrounds, older, well educated who still go off and pledge alliengence to groups like ISIS

Are these just the exceptions that proves the rule? are they just emotionally naive and are clutching onto 'faith' to fill a void? I honestly don't know, but I feel more disquiet when I see these stories than when some petty thief loner goes on a rampage, as that is far easier to understand.

Suspect it's very similar to rich young nobles in medieval periods getting the call to crusade?

 

[theleg]

He had an axe, not a machine gun.

Why didn't those in the carriage all get up and just sock him one?

Good luck with that, i hope you arent too fond of your limbs.

 

[Arazi]

There would be no forests left in Germany...?

 

[Xordium]

As much as the picture of all these terrorists being uneducated, disaffected youth with a chip on their shoulder about western society is an understandable, and an even comfortable, image of who these people are and why they do it...it doesn't always seem to bear out though.

What I then find confusing and hard to rationalise is the number of people we see from middle class fairly affluent backgrounds, older, well educated who still go off and pledge alliengence to groups like ISIS

Are these just the exceptions that proves the rule? are they just emotionally naive and are clutching onto 'faith' to fill a void? I honestly don't know, but I feel more disquiet when I see these stories than when some petty thief loner goes on a rampage, as that is far easier to understand.

I think there are a number of educated people who go down this route. Education though can be narrow in remit and may not cover the things I suggested earlier to the extent one would want. I don't think it's all that shocking that a lot of the educated people who do this are doctors. They have already learned the ability to both "switch off" from the plights of other people to some extent and have already been able to rationalise causing harm to people to serve a greater ethical goal.

As I've said throughout there is not a single answer to single reason - what we can do is address all possible reasons to mitigate what we can. To do otherwise is irresponsible.

 

[Arazi]

Why didn't those in the carriage all get up and just sock him one?

RIP Get well soon to the injured.

He may have been singing I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK
I sleep all night and I work all day, from Monty Python.

 

[Efour]

Dead now. Saves wasting more money imprisoning him

 

[Superficial]

Nah I think he's right it was Egypt, a street in Cairo in the 1970s where everyone looks western and happy, and the same street today where women are all in ninja costumes and men are in pyjamas looking miserable. There's also a picture from Kabul in the 1970s but my understanding is that it's slightly misleading in that the picture was taken in the diplomatic quarter and the people in the photo were young diplomatic staff working there there. Something's definitely going on, I'm not entirely sure what, but something is spreading this jihadi cancer around the world and we need to figure out who is behind it.

Here's an article on it:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/48901/how-veil-conquered-cairo-university-jamie-glazov

 

[Mr Jack]

Thanks Merkel!

You do realise that this chap came to Germany a year before Merkel decided that Germany should take its fair share of refugees, right?

 

[Uther]

Agreed although we do have a number of members who think that these attacks are " jumping to conclusions " as a terror attack.

Stop blaming those mu...oh.

 

[stuie]

too early to shout get your axe wound out?

 

[Xordium]

You do realise that this chap came to Germany a year before Merkel decided that Germany should take its fair share of refugees, right?

That information wasn't available at the time I posted that, right? BUT Merkel was the leader of Germany when he came anyway, right?

 

[Billies Bangers]

You do realise that this chap came to Germany a year before Merkel decided that Germany should take its fair share of refugees, right?

What's your point - she was still Chancellor at that time too wasn't she - in fact 2005 until present day.

 

[Skunkworks]

You do realise that this chap came to Germany a year before Merkel decided that Germany should take its fair share of refugees, right?

Phew, I thought for a moment there might be something to see here.

 

[Arazi]

Not an unexpected outcome of mass, uncontrolled immigration from nations with many people who despise our way of life and the people who frequent our shores for their perceived view of what's important to them and irrelevant to most of us. It is a classic them and us and we can pussy foot around it, this and MUCH worse will be the outcome of forcing such different ways of life together. It has never worked and it never will.

I have been saying this for many years now, this will not work, the natives are getting restless and they are about to go ape ****. It is written on the walls of Europe, there are precedents for it and it's coming and the leadership are too scared to acknowledge it or too worried to act. Tough time ahead for all of the world and I fear, again something I have said consistently, that we are closer to war in Europe now than we ever were during the cold war. I have been consistent on this and my comments (I've been trying to find them) have been shown to be bang on the money on this front so far.

Agree, i have had similar views for a good few years now and posted similar in numerous threads.

Things are going to get worse and people are becoming restless with what they see happening and didn't ask for any of it.