Shots Fired in Munich Shopping Centre

muon said:
You see. You are genuinely failing to see the different nuances around these events. You just don't care about them and want a certain narrative.

Nice is very different to this. Nice was IS inspired and religiously motivated, this wasn't.

However, your agenda means you don't want to accept there is a difference.
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Totally misses my point, deliberately i guess.
 
muon said:
You just care whether he is Muslim so you can add it to another event to use in your propaganda against Muslims, even if it isn't relevant in this case.

Nothing else matters to you.
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My whole argument was, why cant i find any info regarding religion on this scum, or lack of religion, there is nothing, but a conclusion has been made in a very fast time, does that seem correct to you or anyone else?
 
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Arazi said:
My whole argument was, why cant i find any info regarding religiononf this scum, or lack of religion, there is nothing, but a conclusion has been made in a very fast time, does that seem correct to you or anyone else?
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Not to mention the fact that german authorities and media try to divert from the muslim angle as much as they can. Just looking at the German media referring to the perp as David S., when his name is Ali David Sonboly... doesn't sound that Kraut anymore, does it? ;)

The apologists and Terrorist appeasers will continue to appease, divert and distract no matter what. They don't want to see what is happening before their very own eyes.
 
Will21st said:
Not to mention the fact that german authorities and media try to divert from the muslim angle as much as they can. Just looking at the German media referring to the perp as David S., when his name is Ali David Sonboly... doesn't sound that Kraut anymore, does it? ;)

The apologists and Terrorist appeasers will continue to appease, divert and distract no matter what. They don't want to see what is happening before their very own eyes.
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Lol, I wonder how long it took the obvious racists to come out of the woodwork.
 
Will21st said:
A witness who was in the restaurant said her son was in the bathroom with the gunman.
„That’s where he loaded his weapon,“ said Lauretta, who only wanted to be identified by her first name.
She said she saw many children casualties.
„I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom … and he’s still killing the children. The children were sitting to eat. They can’t run.“
Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, „Allahu Akbar,“ or „God is great“ in Arabic.
„I know this because I’m Muslim. I hear this and I only cry,“ she said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/23/europe/germany-munich-shooting/index.html
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From the same link.

Witness Huseyin Bayri said he was riding his bike outside the restaurant when he saw the attacker yelling.
"I heard a scream at first: 'You ****** ... foreigners. I am German. You will get it,'" Bayri said.
"And then the first shots were fired. And a boy of about 14 or 17 years of age ... collapsed, fell to the floor."
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The victims

Three of the victims were 14, two were 15, one was 17 and another 19, while a 20-year-old and a 45-year-old were also killed. Three were female.
The victims all were German nationals from the Munich area, officials said. Turkey's Foreign Ministry said three of the victims were also Turkish nationals, naming them as Sevda Dag, born in 1971; Can Leyla, born in 2001; and Selcuk Kilic, according to Turkey's semiofficial Anadolu news agency.
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Sound like a religiously motivated attack to you?

We'll get the whole picture later, but it isn't surprising how there is a real desire to push a religious spin to this story from some people in this thread.

Don't even know why I'm wasting my time. I'll come back to this thread later and I suspect by then the usual suspects will have run a mile to avoid having to explain their obvious agenda.
 
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Will21st said:
Obvious racists? Naming the perp is now racist, interesting... ;)

Don't let the truth disturb you too much. :D
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You don't even know Germany if you think they would care if he had non 'kraut',(already spewing derogatory terms, off to a fantastic start btw) name. They have the largest Turk population outside of Turkey to give an example. Also, link to those articles.
 
diamount said:
You don't even know Germany if you think they would care if he had non 'kraut',(already spewing derogatory terms, off to a fantastic start btw) name. They have the largest Turk population outside of Turkey to give an example. Also, link to those articles.
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Funny, I've lived in Germany for a long time, but don't let this fact get in your way either. I'll call them kraut all day long as I am well-connected to Deutschland.

Lots of Turks in Germany, no way... ;)

Anyway, here's your articles, all in German... I'll take it your Kraut is as good as mine, ja? :p

http://web.de/magazine/politik/muen...muenchen-aktuelle-stand-ermittlungen-31703668

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/just...waren-noch-300-schuss-munition-a-1104415.html

http://de.sputniknews.com/panorama/20160723/311710131/david-s-taeter-muenchen.html

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen...was-ueber-den-schuetzen-bekannt-ist-1.3091964

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/...r-war-der-amokschuetze-david-s-/13918328.html
 
Arazi said:
My whole argument was, why cant i find any info regarding religion on this scum, or lack of religion, there is nothing, but a conclusion has been made in a very fast time, does that seem correct to you or anyone else?
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Why should his religion be published if it has nothing to do with the crime? Do you want to know what he had for breakfast or what he was studying, or what street he lived on? All of those are likely to be irrelevant to.
 
Right, fair enough. Sounds like a bizarre omission to me and I'm very well aware there are far-left tabloids who feel the need to deceive their readers by omitting something like that. Regardless, the facts we have that this has nothing to do with religion or terrorism and was simply a psychopath striking out for perceived slights against him, which were amplified by his mental illness.
 
Amp34 said:
Why should his religion be published if it has nothing to do with the crime? Do you want to know what he had for breakfast or what he was studying, or what street he lived on? All of those are likely to be irrelevant to.
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I'll answer that in around a week when more comes to light.

Having breakfast wouldn't make you kill someone, studying, yeah that can make you kill someone, studying religious texts for one ;)
 
Amp34 said:
Why should his religion be published if it has nothing to do with the crime? Do you want to know what he had for breakfast or what he was studying, or what street he lived on? All of those are likely to be irrelevant to.
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Hubertus Andre, German security, he was part of the press conference.

We have found evidence of frenzied attacks.

Right, what does that mean, frenzied, seriously, what does that mean?

Does it mean right wing because it is also being linked to the 5 years anniversary of the Norway attack, which was done by a right wing Christian.

So where is this scums religious beliefs too, why are his not being talked about? And if they are linking him to the Norway attack then why didn't the guy named above not say "right wing" in the conference? Instead of "frenzied" and also publish what his religion is.

He and his attack are being linked with the anniversary of the Norway attack, so provide us with the same evidence then, it is called consistency, and what i am seeing is not consistency at all.

Am i the only one who has noticed this?

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"It is too early to link the Munich gunman to mass murderer Anders Breivik, the German Interior Minister says."

Scroll down to the time of 15:50

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/munich-mall-shooting-live-updates-8474748

So, more inconsistency, is it linked or not, the police at the conference said it is linked, the German interior minister says it is to early to link with the Norway attack 5 years ago.

Something smells off.
 
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Mr Jack said:
He was German-Iranian, born in Munich. What evidence does that give you as to his religion?
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None at all. But given the nature of attacks throughout the world at the minute you'd probably release it to either confirm or disprove the suspicions.
Unless you have some pathetic left-wing agenda that is.
Or they could straight up not know, but I imagine that's fairly unlikely.

Just keep in mind this is the same German media, police and government who for years now have been keeping the lid on various attacks by immigrants and minorities.
 
Roar87 said:
He was Iranian, obviously he wasn't a White Supremacist. German media just don't want to name his Religion
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Can we guess as he was probably Shia seeing as he had Iranian roots?
Now lets look at the victims, Turks who are majority Sunni are they not?
Still not seeing a religious connection? (clue, most terror attacks are Muslim on Muslim)
 
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