Shots Fired in Munich Shopping Centre

Dis86 · 23 Jul 2016 at 19:54

Amp34 said:
Perhaps they aren't releasing his religion because people would jump to conclusions? Perhaps their current investigation has pushed Islamic extremism to the bottom of the list of possible motives and as such his religion isn't relevant?

I'm sure the police aren't just ignoring any possible connection with Islamic extremism, but if isn't likely to be related there is little point in dwelling on the possibility when there are better leads to follow. In return there is little point in dwelling on it in press releases and news reports.

Yes but by not releasing it people are also jumping to conclusions. Ref. This thread.
Why hide something when, as I've said several times already, it is very pertinent given the recent nature of attacks? That and again as I've stated, the German police have recent history of trying to cover up minority crimes.

muon · 23 Jul 2016 at 19:55

Amp34 said:
It's almost funny, why aren't we dwelling on the fact he appears to have had a recognizable mental illness. In which case should we not be dwelling on the treatment of mental health patients in Germany. with what has been released so far that appears to be more relevant to this situation.

Yeh, but that's just another news story about Germany not that relevant to the UK.

However, if we can make this about Muslims being bad, then bigots can push there anti-immigrant/minority and Islamophobic agenda. (see Arazi and Dis86)

Dis86 · 23 Jul 2016 at 19:56

muon said:
Then why quote my post about having links to IS and a post about his religion together? and then post "Ta Da" as if you've proven me wrong.

I didn't. I quoted your post about the German police knowing what religion he follows.

muon · 23 Jul 2016 at 19:57

Dis86 said:
I didn't. I quoted your post about the German police knowing what religion he follows.

Please show this post.

Please also show the post I was replying to.

And then for context read the 2 previous posts in that string.

I appreciate comprehension isn't your strong point. Miss-attributing information to the police and jumping to conclusions.

Then paraphrasing and packaging information together to push a certain angle.

Brizzles · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:04

gettothechopper said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36874570
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36720720

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2016

most

How does that explain the 2 attacks i mentioned?

I ask again, were they ' mostly ' Muslim ?

Arazi · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:04

muon said:
Yeh, but that's just another news story about Germany not that relevant to the UK.

However, if we can make this about Muslims being bad, then bigots can push there anti-immigrant/minority and Islamophobic agenda. (see Arazi and Dis86)

Aww, you went there.

muon · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:05

Arazi said:
Aww, you went there.

Are you afraid of Islam and/or it's followers?

Of all aspects about this attack, which are you focusing on most? From everything so far, it appears to be irrelevant.

Arazi · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:09

muon said:
Are you afraid of Islam and/or it's followers?

That would depend on where i am in the world.

But in my home town, no.

muon · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:10

Arazi said:
That would depend on where i am in the world.

But in my home town, no.

Stop avoiding the question.

I am asking in the general global sense. It is after all why you want to know this person's religion, it clearly matters to you.

Being afraid of a religion isn't inherently wrong. However, when you combine that with the posts within this thread, then my statement is true.

Amp34 · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:10

Arazi said:
Aww, you went there.

Dis already complained about a left wing agenda so it already went "there" before his post.

Arazi · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:12

All i want is information that are facts on what caused this and why.

Not the drip feed of information that is just laughable when released, as none of it makes sense.

Let's see what turns up, eventually.

Amp34 · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:12

Dis86 said:
Yes but by not releasing it people are also jumping to conclusions. Ref. This thread.
Why hide something when, as I've said several times already, it is very pertinent given the recent nature of attacks? That and again as I've stated, the German police have recent history of trying to cover up minority crimes.

What conclusions would people not have jumped to if they released his possible religion straight away?

There is hiding and there is not specifically going out of their way to state something that is likely not relevant to the case according the the current police information.

Arazi · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:13

muon said:
Stop avoiding the question.

I am asking in the general global sense. It is after all why you want to know this person's religion, it clearly matters to you.

No religion scares me, but i dislike Islam the most, that ok for you?

Arazi · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:14

muon said:
Stop avoiding the question.

I am asking in the general global sense. It is after all why you want to know this person's religion, it clearly matters to you.

Being afraid of a religion isn't inherently wrong. However, when you combine that with the posts within this thread, then my statement is true.

And stop adding to your post after reading peoples responses.

muon · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:15

Arazi said:
All i want is information that are facts on what caused this and why.

Not the drip feed of information that is just laughable when released, as none of it makes sense.

Let's see what turns up, eventually.

Doesn't sound like you would accept it anyway.

Information isn't being fed from the police. Very little information has actually come from them, other than the evidence they have found at his home.

Sounds like they want to wait, get the whole picture and then reveal what they have found.

Neverthess, you are speculating and seeing conspiracies.

Amp34 · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:17

Arazi said:
All i want is information that are facts on what caused this and why.

Not the drip feed of information that is just laughable when released, as none of it makes sense.

Let's see what turns up, eventually.

So do you want no information for a week and then a mass release of information after the police have had a fair amount of time to actually investigate? Or do you want timely updates when information has been ascertained, but that feels like drip feeding because the incident happened yesterday and the police are at the beginning of a lengthy and major investigation.

It sounds like you won't be happy either way and you will be arguing conspiracy no matter what happens.

muon · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:17

Arazi said:
No religion scares me, but i dislike Islam the most, that ok for you?

Arazi said:
And stop adding to your post after reading peoples responses.

Didn't change the nature of my post. Avoids double posting.

You dislike Islam, fine. What about it's followers?

Why do you feel the need to try and link this attack to Islam, when the police aren't?

Arazi · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:19

muon said:
Stop avoiding the question.

I am asking in the general global sense. It is after all why you want to know this person's religion, it clearly matters to you.

Being afraid of a religion isn't inherently wrong. However, when you combine that with the posts within this thread, then my statement is true.

Again, i am not scared of a made up book, why would i be scared of a book full of made up words.

But, i am scared of the people who want to carry out attacks and their sympathisers because they believe in said made up books words.

muon · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:21

Arazi said:
Again, i am not scared of a made up book, why would i be scared of a book full of made up words.

But, i am scared of the people who want to carry out attacks and their sympathisers because they believe in said made up books words.

But everything released so far suggests no religious motivation.

So why persist with that angle until new evidence suggests otherwise?

Your posts are in fact dismissive of anything suggesting there is no religious motvation.

Arazi · 23 Jul 2016 at 20:24

muon said:
Didn't change the nature of my post. Avoids double posting.

You dislike Islam, fine. What about it's followers?

Why do you feel the need to try and link this attack to Islam, when the police aren't?

Can you point out where i have said i have\tried to link the attack to Islam?

My original question was why is there no info about this scums religious beliefs, or lack of religious beliefs.

I'm not going around in circles with you.