Shots Fired in Munich Shopping Centre

[Chris Wilson]

Given the plethora of IS inspired or directed attacks and killings it's human nature to jump to assumptions when a mass shooting is conducted by a foreign looking guy in Europe. Same as when a civil aircraft comes crashing down. I am guilty of assuming a terrorist attack, as I am human and recent events made it seem a likely correct assumption. Hell, I would bet the bookies would have given odds on to it being such an event. If I am wrong, which I may well be, I will hold my hands up.

I honestly feel the governments of some EU nations are ultra jittery and perhaps in good faith are trying to de-fuse situations, where possible, and probably by nefarious means, in the hope of quelling potential civil unrest. And yes, I can see it coming, the media have been very quiet about the "water pistol" riots in London recently. There's a tinder box feeling across many major cities which could easily be ignited at the moment.

 

[Tosno]

We had this link yet?

http://shoebat.com/2016/07/23/the-munich-massacre-is-a-complete-coverup-the-munich-shooters-facebook-including-his-family-background-shows-he-is-not-iranian-but-a-syrian-islamist-pro-turkey/

After the Cologne cover-ups by the German media/authorities I think people will be actively looking for possible cases but this one did strike me as odd.

I always take these sorts of sites with a pinch of salt but as much as it pains me to say (having proud German citizenship) I actually think there could be something bring swept under the carpet here.

An interesting read

 

[Skunkworks]

If the information we're being given is correct it looks like this one was an emo not jihadi.

 

[Arazi]

Hmm, I've noticed this one starting to gain traction from lefty/SJW types. They've pretty much made "racist" and "bigot" meaningless, so the latest tactic is to call people with concerns over Islam "scared" to try and make the awkward subject go away.

Catching up on the thread.

Bingo, i was waiting to be asked that, it was going to happen sooner or later.

If a brown man is walking towards me, i don't think, hmm, dodgy Muslim, best move away.

But if a brown man is walking towards me with a weapon or is acting a bit nuts or crazy then yeah, i am going to be scared, and i will act accordingly

I bet that answer doesn't suit their opinion though or the question he asked.

Are you afraid of Islam and/or it's followers?

 

[muon]

But is a white man is walking towards you with a weapon, you will be okay? If the answer is no, then what has the colour of their skin got to do with anything?

What stupid posts. You clearly have no idea how much these posts are revealing about you.

You are also the one who is focusing on religion.

 

[LOAM]

Judging by the post of yours I think you are correct!

I'm quite tired, but I dont understand the sentiment of your post.

 

[MANFACE]

Typical cover-up by German media and politicians, same as mass sexual assaults by muslims immigrants in Cologne.

BBC et al didn't want to reveal that Munich shooter's name began with "Ali" and not just "David"

Also cover-up of cinema attack in Germany 23 June this year.

A quote from the net.

"It seems like this kind of thing will soon become a daily commonality in Europe, and the EU elite will just teach its citizens to get used to it. Because nothing can ever be wrong with liberalism, tolerance, and democracy."

 

[RoboCod]

Here is another quote from the net:

"you are a tin foil hat wearing weirdo"

Source: me

 

[MANFACE]

Here is another quote from the net:

"you are a tin foil hat wearing weirdo"

Source: me

Hmm, only someone thinking that would describe himself.

Well done!

 

[Arazi]

But everything released so far suggests no religious motivation.

So why persist with that angle until new evidence suggests otherwise?

Your posts are in fact dismissive of anything suggesting there is no religious motvation.

My original post below, slight exaggeration mainly his religion, i got that from a link in this thread, but my point still stands in my post, that suspected motives etc that the German police have put out upto me posting below post yesterday are utterly ridiculous, but could possibly true.

So, TLDR

It could all be true, let's see,

Suspect is a right wing Shia Muslim of Iranian descent (parents) who looked at and studied "frenzied attacks" material, his name is David.

David also worshipped a white guy named Anders from Norway.
Following on from Davids studying and worshipping of Anders, David then went on to commit murder and kill a load of innocent people on the anniversary of his beloved Anders.

Are we having that then?

Right, now take above post and change location, for example:

USA,

A black man opens fire in a shopping centre and kills 9 people and then himself.

Police conference later reports that they have found evidence that the black man was a bit of a loner, had some mental health issues (unclear what yet) and had violent material of mass killings, some of the Material belonged to a KKK member who murdered dozens of people and today is the fifth anniversary of the KKK members attack.

Police confirm there is an obvious link with the KKK.

So the suspect is a black right wing KKK sympathiser?

Ok.

 

[Arazi]

Wonder why the main news papers\sites are changing the guys name from Ali David Sonboly to David Sonboly.

I noticed that to, BBC News Channel and radio the former, other channels his full name.

 

[Arazi]

Wahhabism should absolutely be treated with scorn yes. We shouldn't be afraid of it because its followers will never be able to gain the intelligence needed to be a full on threat due to the religious suppression they face.

Nothing wrong with wanting that medieval branch of Islam wiped off the planet.

For good.

Backwards Murderers.

 

[olivier renault]

So, another emotional retard going gun-crazy.

Well, it is the open season after all.

 

[Arazi]

I've no idea why people are trying to associate this incident with Isis. It is a crazed idiot who wanted revenge for how he was treated as a kid. As it was unfolding I said to my wife two things. This doesn't feel like another Isis thing and I bet it's only 1 person not 3.

I am questioning everything the German Security put out because of the so called "obvious" link to Anders Breivik the Germans put out to the media so quickly and are still saying the same, and the fact they have covered stuff up in the recent past.

I am not having that he was a white supremacist sympathiser, it could be a minute possibility, in my mind it is anything else but that.

I watched the press conferences, and even the guy in the middle that said it was linked to Breivik and he didn't look comfortable to me, my first reaction was lies, that was just off his face.

 

[StriderX]

Anything to ignore the serious mental illnesses of the world, as dealing with it would be damaging to the economy (happy people, don't want to work as much after all).

Getting to the point of a zero sum game frankly, the damage caused by fear alone will dwarf the cost of having a happier society.

 

[Arazi]

Yet if you were to describe him you'd say from middle east extraction.

 

[Arazi]

I've been trying to find the same on german news sites and TV. But nothing yet. But thanks for posting a UK one.

He was being described as only David S in some German media yesterday, not looked since, but i noticed it.

It adds to all the inconsistent bull **** we are being told from the Germans.

 

[diamount]

I see the thread has devolved into the usual back and forth. I really don't see how you get the mental energy to keep posting muon, I'm mentally exhausted just reading some of these posts.

 

[Arazi]

Very, very little to do with it. As has been seen for generations the first people to arrive in a country(any country) will assimilate partly. Their offspring, born in the new country will almost totally be a citizen of the new country with a nod towards their ethnic background. The next generation is totally assimilated and wonders how their grandparents could have lived. You get the odd person who may return but the pattern has been shown throughout history.

Looks middle eastern where i come from.

 

[Arazi]

He killed 4 Turks, Kosavans and a few others. His motivations were white mass shooters like Andreas brevik and US white school shooters.

It seems your stuck on his skin colour which is your problem.

Ah right, he was a white supremacist sympathiser then? Nasty people they are or can be.

Especially the brown one's.