There are literally tonnes of skinny, slim, small, 'weak' footballers that do perfectly well in the higher leagues the world over.
There are literally tonnes of skinny, slim, small, 'weak' footballers that do perfectly well in the higher leagues the world over.
Right. So we are in agreement that Vardy has only had any success in a particular style and model, within a team which he has previously been poor for.
So what, along with that logic (that in every other system Leicester played, he has been poor) makes you think he would adapt to a new style / expectation at an elite club?
I, seriously, do not understand this manner of thinking.
The 2 seasons where he didnt score as many, 1 season he was been played out wide and the other season he was in a relegation scrap. I dont think its fair to label him as one dimensional because of that. We just dont agree on what more he is capable of, you think he's levelled off and found his place in footbll, i disagree with that and saw moments last year that made me think he has more offer, its pretty simple. What else do you want fella?
Sunderland didn't do well last season, Defoe scored 18 goals.
You're argument really is difficult to follow because it's based on nothing. Players don't slip through the net anymore - top PL clubs can tell you about a 9 year old in Peru, they knew all about Vardy. He's simply just not been very good. You can make all the excuses you want but if Vardy was capable of being the player you're saying then he wouldn't have had the career he's had.
Vardy's just learnt to make the most of what he's got and everything came together for him last season, playing in a side that was set up to get the best out of him. Had Arsenal wanted this technically rounded player then they wouldn't be signing a 29 year old Vardy that's never shown he's capable of being that. There's far better players that meet that criteria. They were after Vardy for his pace and directness. That's all.
You are putting words on my fingers.
I do not think he has levelled off at all, I think last season was a one off. I would be surprised if he repeats that form this season.
He is an incredibly limited football, who thrives playing a particular way.
Lol..so mad. Because Defoe did well in a struggling team, Vardy must as well. Of course Defoe is a lot older and had played a lot of PL football too. Vardy might of been quite overwhelmed by his 1st season in the PL, dont hold it against him eh.
Anyway, i understand your views, you understand mine. Its all good
Anyway, i understand your views, you understand mine. Its all good
We have established Vardy can only do well playing in a very particular way, in a side set up in a particular style. He has had one good season of football in his career and is 29.
Defoe might be (a lot older
), only four years older, but has proved this season even in a poor side (Sunderland) he can play a different role (Allardyce has spoken about being surprised by him) and has scored goals.
Using your own logic here; Defoe > Vardy.
Defoe might be (a lot older
), only four years older, but has proved this season even in a poor side (Sunderland) he can play a different role (Allardyce has spoken about being surprised by him) and has scored goals.Using your own logic here; Defoe > Vardy.
We have established Vardy can only do well playing in a very particular way, in a side set up in a particular style. He has had one good season of football in his career and is 29.
Defoe might be (a lot older
Using your own logic here; Defoe > Vardy.
Well i had hoped Wenger sign Defoe when he came back from Canada actually. Why not get both eh..
Thats what youve established, i havent. I disagree that he's a one trick pony. Like i said before, i know your view, you know mine. Simples
No, you misunderstand me.
WE have established that Vardy has only had a single good season and in which he has played a particular role, within the style of the team.
That is not up for debate; you have admitted that he was poor in the Championship (playing on the wing because he was not good enough in that system up front), you had admitted he was poor in the first season Leicester had in the Premier League when he played a different role in a different style.
He was poor; Sheffield Wednesday released him as he was not good enough for Sheffield Wednesday... Re-read that sentence and let it sink in. He was successful enough in the non league (non league, as in non league) to be worth a cheap gamble by a (in context) wealthy Leicester.
That is what WE have established. Vardy was good, in a poor season for English football, in a Leicester side that played a particular style of football and in which he had a particular role.
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Is this still the transfer rumours forum? I think you have enough discussion to start a new thread 
I think vardy realised early on would be played out of position or off the bench if he moved to Arsenal. Arsenal play with a big guy up front who can hold the ball long enough to get the rest of the team into play and despite the hate for giroud he does a good job. He consistently puts in 15 - 20 goals a season. We then expect the mid fielders to add 10 each to compensate.
Against Arsenal people drop back and vardy would struggle, Arsenal would not adapt to vardy and although he would adapt, he would not play to his strengths and become an average player. Just my opinion.
He made the right choice for Arsenal and himself.
Mahrez transfer would suit both the team and the player though as he would fit right in.
I think vardy realised early on would be played out of position or off the bench if he moved to Arsenal. Arsenal play with a big guy up front who can hold the ball long enough to get the rest of the team into play and despite the hate for giroud he does a good job. He consistently puts in 15 - 20 goals a season. We then expect the mid fielders to add 10 each to compensate.
Against Arsenal people drop back and vardy would struggle, Arsenal would not adapt to vardy and although he would adapt, he would not play to his strengths and become an average player. Just my opinion.
He made the right choice for Arsenal and himself.
Mahrez transfer would suit both the team and the player though as he would fit right in.
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Can we pay Juve an extra 10 million and send Fellaini over?