To win10, or not to win10?

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That is the question...

With the new Vulkan API being released, and looks like it will be the death of DX12, is there really any reason for us gamers to upgrade to windows 10? As the vulkan API provides full support for win7 users.
 
Vulkan won't kill off DX12 so that bubble is burst. Honestly apart from tin foil hat mode no reason not to W10 before you can't.
 
Depends whether things like this bother you:

Much more "curated" experience with less overall control of what the OS is doing i.e. forced updates that can reboot your system at almost any time.

Ugly flat, almost monochrome, disjointed UI that is pretty fatiguing to look at if you have an eye for aesthetics. (Along with less options for customising the look than past OSes).

Start menu/explorer somewhat glitchy and poorly implemented

And to a lesser extent more invasive privacy concerns

If those kind of things don't bother you/don't break your usage then there is a lot of great stuff in the OS but you certainly want to try it before committing IMO.
 
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I just updated (upgrade, not a clean install) two machines to get in under the wire, and it was a fairly painless experience (except one machine that lost all network connectivity due to an incompatible filter). I made a point of turning off nearly all of the advanced settings at install, and running Spybot's Anti-beacon freeware to block the MS tracking.

In all it's been a surprisingly good experience, vastly better than with the preview of a year ago. Things just working, minimal reconfiguring, mostly familiar and easy to use with all my apps and data where they should be.

In short, it's pretty difficult to not recommend you try it and see for yourself as it's free. If you don't like it, you have 30 days to revert, but I'd give it to at least the August 2nd anniversary update, and see if you're happy.
 
Just finishing upgrading the last of 110 computers having started in January.
Its the way forward, and unless you're hardware hasn't been tested for it (which could potentially cause you issues - we've had mixed results on some) then it's the obvious next step imho.
Leave it until the weekend to decide and you'll be paying for the pleasure :)
 
A much better OS in every possible way imo. I honestly dont understand why anyone wouldn't upgrade.

I honestly dunno how anyone can say this when many of the bread and butter features of the OS are undisputedly at best a step back from 7 and 8 - explorer, one drive, multi monitor support, the UI in general, etc. etc. the list goes on.
 
That is the question...

With the new Vulkan API being released, and looks like it will be the death of DX12, is there really any reason for us gamers to upgrade to windows 10? As the vulkan API provides full support for win7 users.

If you are a gamer you should be upgrading to Win10, Win7 is getting old and on its way out, free upgrade(ending tomorrow), improved security, new features, far longer life span, all game developers will be concentrating on 10 not 7 for latest games.

No real reason not to in my books.
 
I honestly dunno how anyone can say this when many of the bread and butter features of the OS are undisputedly at best a step back from 7 and 8 - explorer, one drive, multi monitor support, the UI in general, etc. etc. the list goes on.

That's just, like, your opinion man.
 
I honestly dunno how anyone can say this when many of the bread and butter features of the OS are undisputedly at best a step back from 7 and 8 - explorer, one drive, multi monitor support, the UI in general, etc. etc. the list goes on.

We get it you don't like 10, but IMHO it's a better OS then 7 and I say that as an ex-Win7 user myself, end of the day Win7 is on its way out (mainstream support has already ended and its on extended support until EOL in Jan 14th 2020), so grabbing Win10 now why it's free is a very valid reason, gamers should be on 10 period.

I'm a gamer myself and enjoy gaming on 10.
 
Vulkan won't kill off DX12 so that bubble is burst. Honestly apart from tin foil hat mode no reason not to W10 before you can't.

DX12 is only compatible with win10, Vulkan is cross-platform. http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...-12-does-not-make-a-lot-of-sense-vulkan-does/

My main reason for upgrading to win10 is for the DX12 support, becuase my PC is for games, but as Vulkan is proving to be a better API (performance and compatibility) for me personally, it makes no sense to upgrade. I dont care what my OS looks like, but the fact that there is forced updates, and less personalization over your system as a whole, I think that win7 will be the OS for me.
I am able to get a full win10 64x from work, so the deadline isnt an issue, more of a "is there much point, kind of question" :)

Thanks for your input guys!
 
But it can and will improve, because this is the new platform. 7 will stay as 7 forever.

Hopefully - people have been optimistic about it improving for over a year now though and most of the dev time seems to be spent on gimmicky features that no one even really wants.
 
Haven't they already implimented a couple of features you specifically were part of requesting? :p

Yes and no - they've put in what are at best "work arounds" that only partly solve the problem - the options for shutting down without applying updates are all well and good but little more than a band aid for the wider potential problem.

I know my usage is a bit atypical - I probably make a fair bit heavier use of my tablets, etc. than average and not many home users have a 19" rack mount chassis under the desk (NAS, UPS, PDU, etc.) and running half a dozen or so systems but still - compared to 7 and even 8 Windows 10 has been little short of a nightmare to work with in comparison.
 
If you are a gamer you should be upgrading to Win10, Win7 is getting old and on its way out, free upgrade(ending tomorrow), improved security, new features, far longer life span, all game developers will be concentrating on 10 not 7 for latest games.

No real reason not to in my books.

Why and how is it on its way out? Devs will be working with API's for games, and valve have already stated that Vulkan is the way forward... there are still millions of people using 7 - 8 - 8.1 and as a business, it wouldnt make sense to only support a single OS, this is why DX12 for a developer stand point would make no sense.
 
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