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New card advice.

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I game at 1920x1080 144hz.
I play overwatch cod and wow, cup is i5 2500k @ 4.5 ghz.

£300 budget.

Is the r9 fury the card I should be looking at? My monitor is not freesync.
 
If your monitor isn't freesync then I would go the Nvidia route, GTX 1060 or perhaps the GTX 1070 if you can stretch.
 
A Fury is definitely better than a GTX 1060.

If you want to get as close to that 144 Hz as possible, either go for the Fury or stretch your budget to a 1070.

I wouldn't go for a 980 Ti at this point, since it's so close in price to the 1070 and slower, and much slower in the new API's.
 
I was thinking the 1070 would be overkill at 1080p.

I can stretch to a 1070 but requires me waiting another 4 weeks.
 
If you are not tied to Freesync or Gsync, stretch a bit further and buy a 1070, it will pretty much max 1080p 144hz in most games... You wont get an AMD card in your budget that will max DX11 titles at 1080p 144hz.

The only option other than buying a 1070 is to wait for AMD's Vega cards to appear, but they will probably be £300-400 for the smaller Vega and £450-600 for the larger Vega is my guess.

Another option is to sell your Monitor and buy a Freesync screen and a 480, or a Gsync and a 1060, although the Gsync screen will be roughly £100 more than the Freesync i think?
 
I think the initial problem was that I felt the 1070's are overpriced for realistically where they should be. But if AMD won't do the job I don't have much choice!
 
Why not a used 980 ti? THey go for £250 and many times still have warranty. 1070s aren't worth it.


If you can get a 980ti for £250 or less then it's a good choice. But people seem to be pricing them at unrealistic £300+ which is just silly. I'd just pay a bit more and get a brand new 1070.
 
If you can get a 980ti for £250 or less then it's a good choice. But people seem to be pricing them at unrealistic £300+ which is just silly. I'd just pay a bit more and get a brand new 1070.

True and people are happily buying them for silly prices.
 
Why not a used 980 ti? THey go for £250 and many times still have warranty. 1070s aren't worth it.

So a card slightly exceeding Titan X's performance in many games at stock for a fraction of the price while running cooler quieter and more efficient with the prospect of being noticeably faster in new APIs isn't worth it?

I agree the price is a bit steep but I wouldn't say it's entirely ridiculous for what you get, especially that 980Tis for 250 quid are quite hard to come by.

I'd grab one of the cheaper 1070s and sell it when Vega gets released, provided it'll turn out significantly faster.
 
Why not a used 980 ti? THey go for £250 and many times still have warranty. 1070s aren't worth it.

So a card slightly exceeding Titan X's performance in many games at stock for a fraction of the price while running cooler, quieter and more efficient with the prospect of being noticeably faster in new APIs isn't worth it?

I agree the price is a bit steep but I wouldn't say it's entirely ridiculous for what you get, especially that 980Tis for 250 quid are quite hard to come by.

I'd grab one of the cheaper 1070s and sell it when Vega gets released, provided it'll turn out significantly faster.
 
There is no significant performance difference between the 980 ti and the 1070 once you account for OCing. As for quieter? Irrelevant as they're both quiet and by a trivial amount when looking at equivalent cards (3-4 db difference). Cooler? Same thing, temps have long since stopped being a problem for Nvidia cards (excluding extreme configurations).

If you consider that to be worth >=£100 then go for it, but I don't agree with the evaluation.
 
There is no significant performance difference between the 980 ti and the 1070 once you account for OCing. As for quieter? Irrelevant as they're both quiet and by a trivial amount when looking at equivalent cards (3-4 db difference). Cooler? Same thing, temps have long since stopped being a problem for Nvidia cards (excluding extreme configurations).

If you consider that to be worth >=£100 then go for it, but I don't agree with the evaluation.

Fine by me, I am by no means forcing anyone to get a 1070. I prefer my cards to run as cool as possible and seeing as my MSI 1070 is significantly cooler than my 970 was, I guess it's also significantly cooler than a 980Ti.

As for performance, I think the gap might widen a bit with time (there's already a noticeable difference in some games) and I've told myself I won't buy a card with less than 8GB Vram just in case. 3.5gb issue has never affected me but more memory can't possibly hurt in the age of crappy ports.

Also, resale value should be higher than the 980Ti.

Plus, I'm not from the UK. Where I live, the difference between a used 980Ti and a 1070 is more like 40-50 quid.
 
There is no significant performance difference between the 980 ti and the 1070 once you account for OCing. As for quieter? Irrelevant as they're both quiet and by a trivial amount when looking at equivalent cards (3-4 db difference). Cooler? Same thing, temps have long since stopped being a problem for Nvidia cards (excluding extreme configurations).

If you consider that to be worth >=£100 then go for it, but I don't agree with the evaluation.

The 1070 is significantly quieter and cooler than the 980 Ti. It uses 100 watts less after all. The difference is neither irrelevant nor trivial.
 
How hard is it to OC a 980Ti though?

Most 980 Ti's will clock to 1400 MHz, or a bit more.

A 980Ti at ~1450 MHz is as fast as a GTX 1070 at ~2000 Mhz.

However it does run hotter and louder due to more power consumption. Also have 2GB less vRAM, and is slower in DX12 and Vulkan.

If you can find a 980 Ti for £250, go for it. But if you'd be spending over £300 for one, then go for a 1070 instead.

Also both the 980 Ti and 1070 would be a bit overkill for 1080p 60 Hz, but since you're running 144 Hz they definitely aren't overkill.
 
Don't know how much it changes fps-wise but my 1070 will run at 2076mhz stable with +600 memory staying under 70c and being completely inaudible. In fact, most cards can do that and even a bit more.

Overclocking doesn't even increase the temps by 1c, they're exactly the same as at stock.
 
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