People do this to me on my motorbike too, they seem to think it's less of a hazard when a smaller thing is coming at them.
Cycle Lanes: Right of Way
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People do this to me on my motorbike too, they seem to think it's less of a hazard when a smaller thing is coming at them.
Not quite sure where to start with that, your journey is obviously more important than everyone else's, perhaps we should ban every one from the roads apart from you, so you never need to negotiate any traffic.
It's a sense of entitlement like that that causes most issues on roads.
I dont mind cyclists and like you said, we all have equal rights to the road but it annoys me when the ride two or three abreast on the country lanes where I live and all I want to do is get to work!!!!!
Lots of bends, loads of solid white no overtaking signs. It just annoys rush hour traffic as people are stuck at 10mph and there is then always at least one idiot who then overtakes the cars and cyclists on blind bends..................
Lots of bends, loads of solid white no overtaking signs. It just annoys rush hour traffic as people are stuck at 10mph and there is then always at least one idiot who then overtakes the cars and cyclists on blind bends..................
All depends on the signage. Even cycle paths on pavements can be designated cycle paths and as such the pedestrian should treat it as the road.
And is it a pavement? or is it a footpath or footway in the first place? Is it a cycle track, cycle path or cycle lane? All different things and legally have different rules.
Full break down of the legalities, rights and wrongs, right of way on this website here.
http://www.bikehub.co.uk/featured-articles/cycling-and-the-law/
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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26
How can you judge how fast a thing's travelling? (ignoring the fact you have a speedo on your car, but that would require you to slow down to the speed it was going, probably).
I just overtake cyclists if there's a solid white line and I can see far enough ahead to know nothing's coming. Even if they're going at 11mph
Actually, the 30 or more people stuck behind a couple of 10MPH cyclists on a busy NSL road journeys are more important!
The "sense of entitlement" here is that of a tiny minority who claim the right to inconvenience, delay and endanger (And impose additional costs on, in many various ways, not just by increasing fuel consumption) the lives of large numbers of other people.
It is nessesary sometimes to prevent close passes where dangerous, the rules are, give a cyclist as much room as if they were a car.
That said I wouldn't expect cars to give me a 2 metre gap, I think it's more designed to prevent cars passing within inches of your handlebars , which scares the life out of you. I'm actually much more aware when driving now, cycling really gives you a new perspective.
That's not to say cyclists are always considerate, they certainly aren't. I think more consideration all round is what's needed, pedestrians too, and we'll all be happier.
Thing is you can't legislate considerate behaviour.
If you take that point of view you'd have to apply that to any 'inconvinience' you face, do you shout at zebra crossings too? those entiled pedestians, slowing you down
, also queues of cars at junctions, and traffic jams in general, no one should be allowed to use the road but you? You argument about endangering is even more absurd, a cyclist can't endanger a driver, unless the driver is driving to fast, making a risky/illegal manuvre, or not paying attention, so the driver is in essence endangering themselves... and the cyclist.
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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26
How can you judge how fast a thing's travelling? (ignoring the fact you have a speedo on your car, but that would require you to slow down to the speed it was going, probably).
I just overtake cyclists if there's a solid white line and I can see far enough ahead to know nothing's coming. Even if they're going at 11mph
Problem is here its double white lines and frustrated (mainly AUdi) drivers overtake the bikes and the cards waiting behind.
Makes me cringe when i see it happening.
I'd whole heartedly agree, that's indonsiderate. Both side have thier offenders for sure, but that's the crux of the issue, it's not cars v's bikes, there are no 'sides' in this. It's a number of inconsiderate people, plently of which may be in a car, walking or on a bike. Inconsiderate people it seems, have no preference for mode of transport, they will be inconsiderate regardless.
True.
And they have just as much right to use the public highway as you do. Deal with itIn Rutland they've out every day
In city centres, I get this a lot. Mostly because people are crossing the road relying on their ears instead of their eyes. Once electric vehicles become common there's going to be a huge increase in pedestrians getting run over.
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lots of fail in this thread....
lots of fail.
lots of fail.
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Same rubbish said every time a thread like this comes up.
Give it a rest already, it's boring and not helpful.
According to cyclinguk.org its not a requirement to have a bell/horn on your bike to legally ride it in the UK. But if you intend going outwith you may want to leave it on.
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How do those cyclists endanger other road users?
I don't have a bell or horn on any of my bikes. Quite how I've managed to never collide with a pedestrian is a complete mystery.
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And they have just as much right to use the public highway as you do. Deal with it
Which is exactly what I said earlier, it's a fact of life and it's useless railing against it.
I find it strange that cyclist (amongst others) are allowed to conduct their hobby on the highway at the inconvenience of others. You're not allowed to play cricket on an A road for instance.
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