Overwatch

[Corvo]

Best counter for Genji?? Guessing Zarya as Genji can't deflect beam attacks?

I hate playing against a good Genji - his Ult attack is crazy.

Winston is decent. Tons of health so he can eat a lot of shurikens while damaging Genji with his Tesla gun that can't be reflected. Also Zarya, like you said.

McCree is decent too. His gun and flashbang can be reflected but if you bait the reflect out of the Genji and they're zipping around, a well placed flashbang will stop them on their tracks for an easy headshot or Fan The Hammer kill.

 

[Rusty0611]

What rank are you playing her if you don't mind me asking?

I haven't seen a decent one since I broke through the 60 barrier on the PC personally. Of course every hero can be great in certain situations.

A good Genji? A decent Zaryha or Winston tank. Otherwise people that understand not to shoot while he deflects helps

Yeah same. Can't remember the last time I saw Symmetra... You have to be god level to make it worth using over a Zenyatta imo.

 

[jmc007]

This guys plays Symetra a fair bit. Has videos up with him winning + rank 60 games using her all three rounds, maybe he is exception; I doubt it though.
I did not think the OcUK Voice of Overwatch could be wrong.

 

[Rusty0611]

This guys plays Symetra a fair bit. Has videos up with him winning + rank 60 games using her all three rounds, maybe he is exception; I doubt it though.
I did not think the OcUK Voice of Overwatch could be wrong.

You can make anything work and win with it but doesn't really change the point.

 

[rawuk]

This guys plays Symetra a fair bit. Has videos up with him winning + rank 60 games using her all three rounds, maybe he is exception; I doubt it though.
I did not think the OcUK Voice of Overwatch could be wrong.

Sitting at rank 70. Quite confident if you looked at any competitive matches organised very few teams would put out a Symettra on the PC.

Console is potentially different. I read somewhere she was enjoying 70% win rates on consoles as people couldn't accurately hit all the turrets anywhere near as well on the PC.

You can make anything work and win with it but doesn't really change the point.

Exactly.

 

[jmc007]

Fair do's. Would have helped if the example I posted was a PC player.

So "Kill Room" strats ala Muselk not gonna happen in higher ranks or in Comp.

What rank is our Hanna playing at then?

 

[prjwebb]

65 is great. Infact that earns you a golden weapon outright at the end of this season. I got placed at 68 after my 10 matches on PS4. Recently made the jump to PC and got placed at 48 - Rusty KB & M skills!

Speaking of which, if anyone fancies a game my BNET tag is Cyrus#2976. Happy to communicate and keep team composition in mind. Placed at 48 but have since climbed to 52

I'll be keen for some games. I recently moved from ps4 to pc also.

prjwebb#2234

 

[Corvo]

I'll be keen for some games. I recently moved from ps4 to pc also.

prjwebb#2234

Nice one, will add you on BNET later. I tend to be more available on weekends but I'll throw you an invite whenever you're about

 

[Aedus]

Best counter for Genji?? Guessing Zarya as Genji can't deflect beam attacks?

I hate playing against a good Genji - his Ult attack is crazy.

Zarya isn't a counter for genji, just a minor annoyance. The way Zaryas beam works, unless you have pinpoint accuracy and can keep it on him constantly (near impossible) you'll do not a lot, and he can just keep at a distance. The only minor counters to him are Winston, Mei, McCree and Roadhog. With Winston and Mei he can just dash away, McCree can plink away at him from a distance and stun him if he gets close, but McCree is not a hard counter, it's a pretty even match, roadhog you HAVE to land the hook. Truth is Genji can counter his counters which is what makes him so ridiculous.

At competitive play Genji isn't an issue, basically Genji is overpowered in high-level play because he's hard to hit and you can't shut him down quickly enough, in low-level play the Genjis are basically a detriment to their team, in competitive play the players are so accurate you can shut him down quickly because the players have godly aim, there is a "Genji gutter" which is somewhere between rank 60-80, where you're not good enough to counter his mobility but he's good enough to wreck your team with his ult.

 

[Aedus]

This guys plays Symetra a fair bit. Has videos up with him winning + rank 60 games using her all three rounds, maybe he is exception; I doubt it though.
I did not think the OcUK Voice of Overwatch could be wrong.

Probably because consoles have potato aim and Symmetra doesn't need to aim her left click. Against anyone who can aim a.k.a. high level PC players she is bottom of the barrel.

 

[uncle_rufus]

Zarya isn't a counter for genji, just a minor annoyance. The way Zaryas beam works, unless you have pinpoint accuracy and can keep it on him constantly (near impossible) you'll do not a lot, and he can just keep at a distance. The only minor counters to him are Winston, Mei, McCree and Roadhog. With Winston and Mei he can just dash away, McCree can plink away at him from a distance and stun him if he gets close, but McCree is not a hard counter, it's a pretty even match, roadhog you HAVE to land the hook. Truth is Genji can counter his counters which is what makes him so ridiculous.

At competitive play Genji isn't an issue, basically Genji is overpowered in high-level play because he's hard to hit and you can't shut him down quickly enough, in low-level play the Genjis are basically a detriment to their team, in competitive play the players are so accurate you can shut him down quickly because the players have godly aim, there is a "Genji gutter" which is somewhere between rank 60-80, where you're not good enough to counter his mobility but he's good enough to wreck your team with his ult.

I think Winston is a pretty good counter provided you know what you're doing... If you time your jumps properly with his dashes you can generally stay on top of him enough to force him to back far away from the team-fight or take him out...

I agree Zarya isn't that good against Genji, although if you time her Ult to hit just after he dashes with his ult it can hold him in place to waste a good portion of time (or have him taken out), so long as your team-mates don't get too close and reset his dash cooldown early...

Zenyatta's Ult is a fairly decent counter as well, though since it doesn't last quite long enough it usually can't save everyone - but it can reduce a total wipe down to 1 or 2 casualties provided people know to get close to you when it activates

 

[Beasty]

I placed at 45 but things haven't got better really, I just lose so many matches, it was the same on bloody fifa, just not cut out for this Six in a row I've just lost.

 

[rawuk]

I placed at 45 but things haven't got better really, I just lose so many matches, it was the same on bloody fifa, just not cut out for this Six in a row I've just lost.

Strongly recommend playing later on in the day / evening if you can. You get older people playing then rather than a lot of young guns who refuse to play to the team comp and then rage when they lose.

 

[TeknoJunkie]

Guys I'm often up for some games, not the best in competitive sitting only rank 38 atm but goddamit I know I can do better. Always willing to play the objective, communicate and swap heroes etc as required and willing to take advice/criticism.

BrotherDave#2792

 

[LewisRaz]

Does anyone else here run 1080s in SLI?

My AVG fps with 1 card is 72fps but in SLI it is THREE TIMES higher at 211...???

I have tested this 3 times after someone called it out on one of my youtube videos. Still get the same results every time ~a few fps

 

[Aedus]

I think Winston is a pretty good counter provided you know what you're doing... If you time your jumps properly with his dashes you can generally stay on top of him enough to force him to back far away from the team-fight or take him out...

I agree Zarya isn't that good against Genji, although if you time her Ult to hit just after he dashes with his ult it can hold him in place to waste a good portion of time (or have him taken out), so long as your team-mates don't get too close and reset his dash cooldown early...

Zenyatta's Ult is a fairly decent counter as well, though since it doesn't last quite long enough it usually can't save everyone - but it can reduce a total wipe down to 1 or 2 casualties provided people know to get close to you when it activates

Winston is 100% the best of the bunch because you can stay on top of him, but Winston himself is weak in comparison to tanks, D.VA basically does his job, better. He needs a buff in someway, whether it's his shield or his DPS, so taking him solely to counter a Genji is a pain in the ass.

Zenyatta and Lucio ults both counter his ult, but the game becomes based around genjis ult which is what the issue is, genji himself is a pain in the ass, but he's far from OP, Genji's ult is where the problem is, there's a few things they can do to fix it, 1. Reduce the charge time 2. Reduce the range of the swing (It's bloody ridiculous) 3. give genji a portion of his dash back on kill instead of resetting the dash 4. Reduce the duration from 9 seconds to maybe 6 or 7 seconds.

 

[uncle_rufus]

Winston is 100% the best of the bunch because you can stay on top of him, but Winston himself is weak in comparison to tanks, D.VA basically does his job, better. He needs a buff in someway, whether it's his shield or his DPS, so taking him solely to counter a Genji is a pain in the ass.

Zenyatta and Lucio ults both counter his ult, but the game becomes based around genjis ult which is what the issue is, genji himself is a pain in the ass, but he's far from OP, Genji's ult is where the problem is, there's a few things they can do to fix it, 1. Reduce the charge time 2. Reduce the range of the swing (It's bloody ridiculous) 3. give genji a portion of his dash back on kill instead of resetting the dash 4. Reduce the duration from 9 seconds to maybe 6 or 7 seconds.

Agree about Genji... I think some very subtle tweaks would go a long way to making it just slightly more balanced (I don't think it needs much though)

As for Winston, to my mind he's not really intended to be a proper tank in the same way as D.va and Reinhardt... he's more like D.va was before her recent buff - a back-line harasser, making calculated attacks against specific vulnerable targets and then getting out again... It's true D.va can still do that to some extent, but she lacks mobility once she gets there, her defense matrix isn't as effective as Winston's barrier at defending her from the enemy team's front-line turning around to shoot her in the back, and her weapons aren't as easy to hit small or mobile targets with...

The big problem with Winston is how hard he gets shutdown by certain characters; mostly Reaper, Junkrat and Roadhog... but you can sometimes avoid them. Had a game last night on Gibraltar where the enemy team were rolling us for the first 3 points on attack, looked pretty bad... I noticed their Genji and Zen were both causing us problems so switched from Zarya to Winston and stayed stuck to them... Eventually the Genji gave up and switched to Reaper, at which point I changed back to Zarya and for some reason he didn't switch back to Genji (and we won! )

 

[DrToffnar]

Guys I'm often up for some games, not the best in competitive sitting only rank 38 atm but goddamit I know I can do better. Always willing to play the objective, communicate and swap heroes etc as required and willing to take advice/criticism.

BrotherDave#2792

Will add you tonight mate

 

[Name]

anyone feel free to add me too, only rank 7 but in the top 30% of players apparently in quickplay :S probably because I'm only rank 7 lol

Niji#2703

 

[VincentHanna]

Rank 7 or level 7?