Summer Transfer Window 2016/17 - Rumours & Signings

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I said it needs an overhaul, not that it is happening. Wenger's biggest problem is his loyalty to his players.
 
Arsenals squad is top draw in certain places but its just lacking a top class striker and a couple of defenders. Midfield wise it would be hard to argue that they haven't got the best set of players in the league.
 
I said it needs an overhaul, not that it is happening. Wenger's biggest problem is his loyalty to his players.

Yea, ok..i'll rephrase, the squad doesn't need an overhaul. Won't deny a player here or there in certain positions would be useful but it's not like the whole spine needs replacing.

Cech, Kos, Bellerin, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez. 6 top players that the first XI can be built around
 
Arsenals squad is top draw in certain places but its just lacking a top class striker and a couple of defenders. Midfield wise it would be hard to argue that they haven't got the best set of players in the league.

Goalkeeping / Defence / Forward is poor.

I am not sure I agree about the best midfielders in the league (there are some distinctly average players) however, the midfield is also phenomenally talented.

Yea, ok..i'll rephrase, the squad doesn't need an overhaul.

Disagree. I just mentioned; Defence - could do with upgrades, Forward - need a first choice forward and a better back up, Goalkeeper - long term replacement for Cech.
 
Yea, ok..i'll rephrase, the squad doesn't need an overhaul. Won't deny a player here or there in certain positions would be useful but it's not like the whole spine needs replacing.

Cech, Kos, Bellerin, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez. 6 top players that the first XI can be built around

Yep just need a few additions, well 2 to be exact ie a CB and a striker.
 
Yea, ok..i'll rephrase, the squad doesn't need an overhaul. Won't deny a player here or there in certain positions would be useful but it's not like the whole spine needs replacing.

Cech, Kos, Bellerin, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez. 6 top players that the first XI can be built around

Six players do not make a squad.

Furthermore; they are all ageing.
 
Overhaul might be a bit harsh, but there were definitely players that should have been trimmed from the squad.

I'm ready to write off Walcott and Oxlade Chamberlain - sell these two and it would have given us a decent chunk of cash to put towards a top RW.

We also have an abundance of CMs - Cazorla, Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshire, Elneny, Xhaka, Le Coq - I'd have probably let Wilshire and Le Coq go if were me. Coquellin would probably fetch a reasonable fee, but he doesn't do anything that in my opinion Elneney doesn't do better, and his playing time most likely going to be limited now that we've brought Xhaka in.
 
Disagree. I just mentioned; Defence - could do with upgrades, Forward - need a first choice forward and a better back up, Goalkeeper - long term replacement for Cech.

Cech is still excellent, won't deny a replacement will need to be lined up, not for a few seasons hopefully though, plenty of time to find someone, Ospina is also a excellent back up.

Monreal is also an excellent defender, took a season to get up to speed but he's excellent on the ground, very hardly gets beaten in a ground duel.

We need an Aguero/Suarez up top though, for sure..
 
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Six players do not make a squad.

Furthermore; they are all ageing.

How are they ageing?

Cech and Kos are the only one over 30, it's not like they are 35..jeez

Edit, apart from Cech, that's alright though, as long as his reflexes stay sharp, he's got a few more seasons in him
 
Six players do not make a squad.

Furthermore; they are all ageing.

In the sense that we all ageing second by second, I would agree with you.

In any other sense, not really

Ozil: 27
Sanchez: 27
Bellerin (LOL): 21
Ramsey: 25
Cech: 34 (not ancient for a keeper)
Kos: 31

Ok the last two are cracking on a bit, you'd hardly call the others dinosaurs though.
 
In the sense that we all ageing second by second, I would agree with you.

In any other sense, not really

Ozil: 27
Sanchez: 27
Bellerin (LOL): 21
Ramsey: 25
Cech: 34 (not ancient for a keeper)
Kos: 31

Ok the last two are cracking on a bit, you'd hardly call the others dinosaurs though.

Yea, and everyone was saying we should sign Williams who'll be 32 in a few weeks. Looks we have Mustafi though, who is 24

Coquellin would probably fetch a reasonable fee, but he doesn't do anything that in my opinion Elneney doesn't do better, and his playing time most likely going to be limited now that we've brought Xhaka in.

I'd hold onto Coq, really defensive minded, quite helpful actually. He's the type of defensive midfielder Pep would stick in defence. Think Wenger has been playing him in the CB position as well.
 
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In the sense that we all ageing second by second, I would agree with you.

In any other sense, not really

Ozil: 27
Sanchez: 27
Bellerin (LOL): 21
Ramsey: 25
Cech: 34 (not ancient for a keeper)
Kos: 31

Ok the last two are cracking on a bit, you'd hardly call the others dinosaurs though.

Of those six players five are over 25, while I wouldn't call them 'old' per say, they are bucking the trend of Arsenal bringing through young players.

The Arsenal squad is bloated and has far too many average players; Wenger's problem is his loyalty to these players take the defence for example.

Defence: Debuchy, Gibbs, Mertesacker, Gabriel, Koscielny, Monreal, Holding, Chambers, Bellerín, Jenkinson, Bielik. (Bielik and Holding are young and just signed iirc)

A good chunk of that defence can be improved upon; moved on because they're not good enough, imo.

This might be better suited to the Arsenal sub thread though as it's off topic.
 
Of those six players five are over 25, while I wouldn't call them 'old' per say, they are bucking the trend of Arsenal bringing through young players.

The Arsenal squad is bloated and has far too many average players; Wenger's problem is his loyalty to these players take the defence for example.

Defence: Debuchy, Gibbs, Mertesacker, Gabriel, Koscielny, Monreal, Holding, Chambers, Bellerín, Jenkinson, Bielik. (Bielik and Holding are young and just signed iirc)

A good chunk of that defence can be improved upon; moved on because they're not good enough, imo.

This might be better suited to the Arsenal sub thread though as it's off topic.

It's no more bloated than City, Utd, Chelsea, take the wage bill for example, 4th highest wage bill. Problem you have with selling players is youre left with youth, if you have to play those youth players that aren't good enough yet, it'll cost you games, it's risky. Big clubs always have players on the fringe that might not get a lot of game time but can be very useful. I'd harldy call Chambers, Gibbs, Debuchy rubbish, plenty of international caps between them..you can't have 11 world class players starting the game, not really anyway.
 
I have said similar of Manchester City, Chelsea, and Manchester United (and expected Liverpool to have more transfer activity), this is not anti Arsenal at all.

Arsenal used to bring through youth, and combine that with experienced, excellent, footballers. Arsenal have stagnated over the last few years.

Anyway; transfer news!

rumour has it that Sheffield Wednesday rejected the (insulting) bid of ~£7,000,000~ for Forestieri. He was never going to leave regardless, however this might mean he can push for a new contract.

Still desperate for some strength in midfield, another centre back and a winger/wide midfielder.
 
I'm very surprised Swansea allowed themselves to get shafted in the Williams deal.

£12 million for a defender as good as him is peanuts considering he's been the best defender in the league for the passed few years.

Even though he's 31 they should have held out for at least £15 million or more as Everton have got themselves a top class defender for the next 3-5 years depending on how long he can last.

£12 million is not a lot especially with the new tv deal, add to that Everton's new rich owner and the fact they just got nearly £50 million for stones it really is a bargain for Everton imo.

I don't agree. Even if we kept Stones we would still needed to sign another CB. So might end up with 25-30m left from selling Stones to be left with a 31 year old and still need to sign someone. I think considering he's 31 that's a more than fair sum of money. Better defenders than him rapidly declined at that age. Our whole defence is running out of legs, I don't feel confident a 31 year old will last long. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I also don't believe we have a rich owner about to put cash in. Most of that 47m (minus whatever agent fees or sell on fees we had when we got him) might get spent, but I highly doubt Everton will spend more money than they take in from transfers.
 
Why do we need to sell anyone, we have plenty in the back. I wouldn't get rid of either. They just need to stay fit and they will be strong squad players.

Yea, Ox is 23 in a few days, it's nothing, both can be very strong squad players. I still think Walcott has a huge amount of potential, i think he could score 15/20 goals no problem if things started to click for him.

Arsene signed anyone yet? Thought not..... *Sigh

Mustafi next week hopefully
 
Why do we need to sell anyone, we have plenty in the back. I wouldn't get rid of either. They just need to stay fit and they will be strong squad players.

I've never seen anything from either of them that would indicate a) that that can stay fit and b) that they'll ever be anything other than awful. Money in the bank is fine, but there is £130k a week (ish) that could be spent on a single, better, player. Selling those two would also net a good £25m to put towards the cost of a replacement player.

We have too many squad players, and not enough stars.
 
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