100 Million Vehicles, 4 Secret Keys

Didn't BMW have a major problem with key remote signals being recorded by snoopers and used to open the car not so long ago?
 
Yup nothing new and really a non-story, seriously if you think cars are insecure because of this then how silly of the manufacturers to make the windows made from glass...
 
I heard a story a while ago where some or other car journalist had a car in his studio, and he had an insurance chap and a sales rep in the studio with him who said that it was physically impossible to break in to the car without smashing a window. The interviewer then had a "crook" come in who broke a tail light, removed an indicator bulb and shirted the wires which caused the doors to pop open.

My alarm bells were ringing because if there was anything going through the wires the indicator would be on, so I didn't believe him but I've always wondered whether he was right as I *suppose* it could be possible somehow.
 
Amp34 said:
Not sure if that definition is just a British one. Keyless entry in North America just means you have a remote key fob. If your car isn't sold as keyless entry then you'll have to physically put a key in a lock and turn.
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Keyless Entry in the UK usually implies that the door unlocks and you can start the car as well, all without a key... whereas remote fobs usually still have a pop-out key blade for the ignition. The idea there is that, if your electrics go, you can at least still unlock the car and access anything inside.
 
chriscatt said:
Yup nothing new and really a non-story, seriously if you think cars are insecure because of this then how silly of the manufacturers to make the windows made from glass...
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Don't be so sure about that. I had to break into my Lexus when I lost the keys, figured it would be easy to just pop the side window and then replace it. Turned out that no amount of bricks, hammers or even sledge hammers would even make a mark on the glass never mind break it. In the end I had to get a proper glass breaking hammer and then damage the door frame prying the shattered pane out.


On topic though, I thought the definition of Keyless entry and Keyless go where pretty self explanatory?
Keyless entry = press a button and it opens without putting a key in.
Keyless go = press a button and it goes without putting a key in.
 
Clarkey said:
On topic though, I thought the definition of Keyless entry and Keyless go where pretty self explanatory?
Keyless entry = press a button and it opens without putting a key in.
Keyless go = press a button and it goes without putting a key in.
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No, the first one is simply remote central locking, keyless entry means you walk up to the car without pushing a button on a fob and the car opens.

Also automatic center punch.....
 
snapdragon69 said:
I have seen a way to open many cars with keyless entry (UK definition- as in leave keys in pocket and touch handle). They have a device which activates the keyfob in the house and receives the reply signal from it and rebroadcasts it to the car - a sort of man-in-the-middle relay or signal booster. It basically just acts in the middle to 'bring the keys in the hall and the car closer together in radio terms in order for it to unlock. They then use the ODB port to do something else - I thing programme a new key. My advice would be to keep the car key fob far enough away from the car (middle of house) such that this exploit won't work.
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It's nothing to do with your fob. They just smash the window, reach down and plug into the OBD port and program a new key.
 
VW did something majorly wrong and then tried to cover it up.

Hmm....where have we heard of something like that happening before. Oh that's right, VW :D
 
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