Hence why economists tend to use seasonally adjusted figures when talking about unemployment.
Brexit thread - what happens next
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Hence why economists tend to use seasonally adjusted figures when talking about unemployment.
You are missing the point - Economists predicted 9000 job losses by this time because of BREXIT.
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Now.
Probably on the assumption that we triggered article 50 straight after the referendum.
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Remoaners gonna moan.
and you are missing the point, Cameron said he would issue article 50 straight away and stay as the pm. neither of that happened.
however when we do issue article 50 you can bet those job loses will happen.
again please do some critical thinking rather than just posting rubbish that is easily explained,.
Its that Project fear again - Remain campaign lies.
Who said this? "economists polled by Reuters"? It is a well known journalist trick - did they poll a hundred of the most respected economist scientists in Europe (with no doubt a gruelling selection process)? Or did someone phone up a mate who worked in a bank once to get a quote for his article? You just don't know, although I could guess which is closer to the truth.
Politics and tabloid headlines create a populist train crash.
My thoughts on exit and jobs - some sectors may miss out on contracts sooner rather than later but the biggest effects will be reduction (or postponement in the short term) of investment in UK jobs. For example Nissan would not pull production to another factory, that would be madness - but it may effect the decision making when choosing where to produce a new model in future.
The effect on immigration shouldn't be ignored either - will it result in a rush of migrants hoping to get in before the gates close (if they ever do) or does the whiff of xenophobia and the uncertainty of any long term future in the UK put migrants off coming here?
We'll see, in time, lots and lots of time. Whatever your personal opinion jumping on one headline or the other to prove your point is fruitless and reminds me more and more of football banter.
There where plenty of remain voters on here and out there claiming there will be massive job losses regardless of article 50 being triggered, there are threads on here full of posts claiming we have gone back to the 50's etc, take a look, comical.
The world was about to end according to a lot of remain voters from the time the result was known and it carried on in those threads for two weeks, massive job losses was just one of their predictions.
Don't you remember all the ********* threads and tears?
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Hmm not the best of defences your throwing out there
Jobs impact of Brexit was always going to be long term and with that it becomes less and less tangible to actually reinforce positively or negatively, as do most things once the timescale goes further and further out.
Reality we will never know. How many companies are already diverting investment to Europe, how long till James Dyson one of the few pro Brexit businesses reshores his workforce
we wont know. Apart from a few massive companies who will steal the headlines the reality is most of the impact will be felt by odd workers losing their jobs and jobs that would have been created not happening, but inevitably some created by companies who were restricted by trade in Europe who may benefit if we leave.In short you will never know the impact, only assumptions made on what would have happened under various circumstances which will be branded fear/lies/wishful thinking, dem experts lying, etc etc depending on peronaly views and political agendas
Best to look at it this way, Climate Migrants are about to become a serious threat to the more temperate areas, and the UK being an island means it can more or less ignore this problem for the greatest migrant flow.
The EU however cannot ignore it, and cant seem to deal with it either... We've just lost Turkey as a middleground for weathering both warzone and the eventual climate migrants.
So no, the EU is not safe and never will be unless they give up their useless socialistic nonsense that endangers the whole continent.
We don't win either, but we can actually do something tangible about it even if the EU starts breaking down, which is why Russia sees a very weak enemy right now.
The EU however cannot ignore it, and cant seem to deal with it either... We've just lost Turkey as a middleground for weathering both warzone and the eventual climate migrants.
So no, the EU is not safe and never will be unless they give up their useless socialistic nonsense that endangers the whole continent.
We don't win either, but we can actually do something tangible about it even if the EU starts breaking down, which is why Russia sees a very weak enemy right now.
Especially when the definition has been so radically changed at the same time. There is no longer any need for any attack (or any crime of any kind) or for any expression of hate (or any unfair prejudice of any kind) towards any group of people. Or even for any of the people involved to say anything - reports from uninvolved people count too.
So if, for example, you insulted me for some reason and a third person reported that you had insulted me because I'm an immigrant, that would add to the "hate crime" figures. Even if I'm not an immigrant. Even if you neither knew nor cared whether or not I was an immigrant and had insulted me for a completely unrelated reason. Even if the third person hadn't seen either of us and you hadn't insulted me at all and in fact we'd never even met.
The "hate crime" figures have no connection to reality and mean nothing at all except for their use in propaganda.
There might have been an increase in actual hate crime. Or no change. Or a decrease. Nobody knows. It's not being measured.
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Both continuations of trends that existed long before the ref was even announced.
Out of interest when did this actually change?
Are you serious or are you trolling?
Possibly people feel safer reporting such things now it's taken more seriously. Rather like the amount of victims of sexual abuse being too afraid to come forward 20 or 30 years ago compared to now.
why?
i cant see the French being all that arsed about having free movement with the uk tbh.
they seem pretty anti immigration at the moment, they may want a similar deal.
They won't want another country getting it unless they also get it at the same time, not a chance of having the same at a later date.
I just don't get why this "racist" country is such a magnet to immigrants
Because most people aren't "racist", rather a small proportion are, some of them quite possibly emboldened by the brexit results and believing they are actually the majority.
This is the crux really. The majority of Brexiters aren't racist, but many were happy to form an alliance with elements in British politics and society who clearly are, in order to reach the common objective of lower immigration. There's two important after effects of this:
Firstly it puts a stain by association on Brexit. If Brexiters don't like that stain, then they should have done far more to distance themselves from the racist campaigning before the vote and far more to fight against it afterwards.
Secondly it emboldens the racists, makes them feel they have a mandate for their views and behaviour. This effect isn't likely to go away unless everyone works hard to stamp it out and make it clear that this wasn't what was voted for. All the progress with tolerance that has been made in recent decades in Britain is in danger of unravelling.
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