3 Year Old Boy Dies After Dog Bite

cyber69 · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:35

My wife's friend recently had to have her dog put down due to it biting someone. Her daughter took the dog (a bullmastiff) for a routine walk one day and it bit a woman totally at random. Never had a problem with the dog before.

We hear that she has taken on a puppy, I think the same breed, and it was separated from it's mum after only a week.

Faustus · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:36

Thekwango said:
a 1 month old child can jump on a sofa on it's own and it's bite break your skin?

They grow at different rates and have different life spans. You would have to do the maths to equate the dog years to human years.

However, your analogy could be done for the human and I suspect with more dangerous consequences, especially over time. :rolleyes:

Dicehunter · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:40

Kids have been killed or had their faces ripped off by these dogs that are basically teeth on legs for years now.

A dog license/dog owning fee needs to be put back in place, It's not a major change but it's a start.

Roar87 · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:44

Dicehunter said:
Kids have been killed or had their faces ripped off by these dogs that are basically teeth on legs for years now.

A dog license/dog owning fee needs to be put back in place, It's not a major change but it's a start.

What's that going to achieve though? How would it have stopped this incident? People will just fill in a form and get the license and the same thing will happen.

All you can really do is educate people and ensure dog owners are held accountable where appropriate.

dowie · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:45

Faustus said:
It's not the dog that's dangerous though it's the feckless owners.

lol of course not... I mean I was reading the story imagining this to be one of those horrible Pug dogs... Imagine my surprise when I saw it was an 'American bulldog'

Seriously are people really that naive? Of course there are feckless owners but some dog breeds are massively more dangerous than others

Pit bull types, including staffies, american bulldogs etc.. ought to be banned. Existing dogs neutered and muzzled future breeding/importation of them made illegal. should have a dog license and compulsory attendance at classes if you're going to own a dog.

ttaskmaster · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:46

Craig1981 said:
I honestly think there should be a law in place that means that any dog that so much as nips a human with their teeth is immediately destroyed.

Same for any horse that kicks its rider?
Same for a cow that hoofs the farmer?

A loose cat recently attacked three dogs, who were being walked on-lead in the dog area of a local park, by a law-abiding citizen. The dogs apparently cowered in fear and tried to escape, but were leashed tightly by the owner and were quite savagely cut up. The owner even had to go to hospital and endure over 3 hours of stitches, due to the injuries received in defending the dogs...

You gonna put that cat to death as well?
Please say yes!!
I grew up with cats, but I still think they're selfish, evil little middle-management scum!

bowey said:
Why do people keep saying it's not the dog that's dangerous ?

Because it's what people do that it reacts to.
I'm not considered dangerous, but if you **** with me too much I'll lamp you just as soon as a dog will bite.

Craig1981 said:
The reason I dislike dogs so much is that so many of them are owned by people who have no idea how to raise them properly.

The reason I hate Audis, BMWs and children is exactly the same...

Craig1981 said:
I hate dogs charging at a fence and barking like mad at me when I'm walking past a house.

Two of mine do that - One is just being territorial and warning you that this is his back garden. The other, like all my neighbours' dogs, just wants to say hello and make friends, in case you just happen to be carrying a freshly grilled sirloin steak that you don't want... and yes, that has happend!

Craig1981 said:
I know it cant get me, but its damn intimidating when its a big dog.

In many cases, the dog is just doing its job. If you don't then try and break into the home or hurt the family, the dog feels it's a job well done!

Craig1981 said:
Sucks for the dog, but I'd rather see a dogs life ended than a humans.

Plenty of humans who deserve a slow, painful death far more than any dog who can't understand the complex world of humans...

glenimp617 · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:47

Don't ban dogs, it's the owners

Don't ban guns, it's the owners

p.s. I've never heard of a death caused by a sausage dog :confused:

bulletv1 · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:47

It was horrible. I live just down the road, heard the screams and went to try and help but there was nothing we could do.

ttaskmaster · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:52

dowie said:
Pit bull types, including staffies, american bulldogs etc.. ought to be banned.

Along with Labradors and Collies and GSDs and all the other breeds that bite just as often, until eventually we eradicate this foul threat to our children and our pavements. Once you get rid of the top tier (assuming it's the actual breed and not those purposely crossbred for violence, of course), the next will be headlining, followed by the next, etc, etc...

Rroff · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:55

bulletv1 said:
It was horrible. I live just down the road, heard the screams and went to try and help but there was nothing we could do.

that must have been quite traumatising.

Arazi · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:58

diamount said:
You can't domesticate a wild animal. What other flawed analogies do you have coming out your behind?

What if he brought up a Tiger from birth? at home.

I agree though that owners are mainly at fault and should be held accountable, but any dog can flip, just as any animal probably can, so anyone saying it is not the fault of the animal is really wrong.

Or do people think a dog cannot flip for any reason?

bulletv1 · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:58

Rroff said:
that must have been quite traumatising.

Yep. My wife is really shaken as she knows the family and looked after the boy at the nursery he went to.

dowie · 19 Aug 2016 at 14:59

ttaskmaster said:
Along with Labradors and Collies and GSDs and all the other breeds that bite just as often, until eventually we eradicate this foul threat to our children and our pavements. Once you get rid of the top tier (assuming it's the actual breed and not those purposely crossbred for violence, of course), the next will be headlining, followed by the next, etc, etc...

nope just pitbull types that cause disproportionately more deaths

I'm not talking about a bite or a nip here but kids being killed - rather a big difference

Faustus · 19 Aug 2016 at 15:07

dowie said:
including staffies, ought to be banned. .

wrong wrong wrong - oh dear oh dear oh dear! Are you aware that one of the best recommended dogs for children i.e. temperament are Staffordshire Bull Terriers? They have great personalities and are as soft as putty.

If you ask a vet what is a good dog for a family they will often say a staffie. They have become much maligned as a fighting dog because of the idiots walking our streets - I refer to the drug dealers who have these as trophy dogs, or the dog fighting fraternity who force these poor unfortunate creatures to fight using the most horrendous methods.

However, it is actually not part of their DNA make up at all.

R-evans · 19 Aug 2016 at 15:08

I have a Collie, she is fine and I've never seen an aggressive Collie or Labrador.

Staffies are also very good pets and are recommended as family pets by professionals. It's the fact that they are the Chav dog of choice (again, idiot owners) that give them a bad rep and maybe make them viscous towards others. Again, owners fault.

Some Pitbulls however have been proven to be unpredictable and therefore are a banned breed in the UK.

Above post also covered this while I was typing

grudas · 19 Aug 2016 at 15:08

deport all the dogs tbh.

Rroff · 19 Aug 2016 at 15:11

Faustus said:
wrong wrong wrong - oh dear oh dear oh dear! Are you aware that one of the best recommended dogs for children i.e. temperament are Staffordshire Bull Terriers? They have great personalities and are as soft as putty.

If you ask a vet what is a good dog for a family they will often say a staffie. They have become much maligned as a fighting dog because of the idiots walking our streets - I refer to the drug dealers who have these as trophy dogs, or the dog fighting fraternity who force these poor unfortunate creatures to fight using the most horrendous methods.

However, it is actually not part of their DNA make up at all.

Staffies can be quite a complex issue - there are those that have come from stock predominately bred as companion animals (which are like 90% of those in the UK) but there are also some that have come from breeding as working animals and they can be a completely different story. Also you have the issue that while they will often be incredibly good with their family - that doesn't mean they are as soft and friendly with other children - and it is naivety over that point that has lead to many avoidable incidents.

glenimp617 · 19 Aug 2016 at 15:12

ttaskmaster said:
Along with Labradors and Collies and GSDs and all the other breeds that bite just as often, until eventually we eradicate this foul threat to our children and our pavements. Once you get rid of the top tier (assuming it's the actual breed and not those purposely crossbred for violence, of course), the next will be headlining, followed by the next, etc, etc...

I'm not sure a lab has the strength in its jaw to kill. Might be wrong, but I believe they used to be used as gun dogs due to this weakness?

Rroff · 19 Aug 2016 at 15:13

glen8 said:
I'm not sure a lab has the strength in its jaw to kill. Might be wrong, but I believe they used to be used as gun dogs due to this weakness?

Not that I'd recommend it but managing a labrador that is having a bit of a bad day is a totally different story to managing one of the bull breeds, etc.

Arazi · 19 Aug 2016 at 15:13

bowey said:
Why do people keep saying it's not the dog that's dangerous ? Obviously if you have to keep it in check and never ever allow it to get out the house how on earth is it not dangerous?

Bingo.

If anyone who owns a dog has to use an item\equipment to stop their dog from being aggressive every time they are out for a walk with it then that dog shouldn't be a pet imo.