Soldato
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Nige would have been told to go away, just like Remainers are now.
Brexit thread - what happens next
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Err. the referendum was in their manifesto, therefore the result of the referendum was also part of the manifesto. Just because it didn't go the way they wanted doesn't mean they can just ignore the result
Never the less, funny how my poster boy Nige manged to fundamentally change the direction of the entire country without ever setting foot inside Westminster as a part of the system
How many activists can say the same?
That's the fault of the people who ran the referendum
Well actually they can ignore it, it was an advisory referendum. I'm not saying they should or will ignore it, but technically they can.
And that fundamentally is the problem with referendums. And now he's run for the hills, growing a tash as a weak disguise and applying for joint-German citizenship
No, that's the fundamental flaw in referendums.
So presumably you didn't vote Tory and refused to legitimise the referendum by voting?
Yea right...the mindless followers of Nige would be spouting whatever he said as they always do
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He wouldn't have got a 2nd ref and you know it.
I've always voted in every election I'm eligible to. I feel strongly about that. So whilst I'd rather there not have been a referendum on this issue (or any other) I still voted. Opting out solves nothing because no-one knows why you're opting out (is it in principle or in apathy?). Which is why I think ballot papers should have a "no suitable candidate" box or similar so that protest votes can be more accurately recorded. But had Remain won it still wouldn't change my view on referendums.
It wouldn't have stopped him campaigning for one, something Leavers criticise Remainers for now.
You could have spoilt the ballet paper on the referendum. The govt has a huge mandate for Brexit because of the turn out and not just the % leave win.
Regardless of which way you voted your involvement legitimises the vote and makes you partly responsible for the outcome.
And this is why you have no business discussing politics.
We all bow down to your GCSE in politics. Just lol
Everyone has a right to discuss Politics, it should be more accessible, not less.
Trolling isn't discussing.
Believing in and wishing for a better political process doesn't preclude you from participating in the existing political process. You have to work with what's in front of you, especially if you feel strongly about the subject being voted on. I dislike referendums, but I dislike Brexit even more and so that trumps the other.
And yes, being involved legitimises the result. But so does not being involved, because essentially you are standing with those who cannot be bothered to vote and likely wouldn't vote regardless of what political process was being used.
Spoiled ballots aren't differentiated between though, which is the point. A spoiled ballot because a voter disagrees with all the options, and a spoiled ballot as a result of someone not being able to read instructions for casting their vote are officially the same.
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