Those people will be eligible to apply for British citizenship at the moment. If they don't want to become British then their status will be determined as part of the Article 50 negotiations.
Brexit thread - what happens next
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Those people will be eligible to apply for British citizenship at the moment. If they don't want to become British then their status will be determined as part of the Article 50 negotiations.
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Ironically.... The EU made it far easier for EU family members and their spouses to be together.
UK citizens have less rights because of the British government. my Indian partner have struggled to be together in the UK... British people have to meet a income threshold (and an additional amount if you have children to enter the UK. Even more strange is that they do not take the non EU spouses income into consideration.
However... If my none EU partner and I wish to move to Spain, germany, France or anywhere else in the eu... We can do easily
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It's not strange at all - spouse visas were subjected to rampant abuse necessitating the current arrangements. It's unfortunate that legit situations are affected as well but that's the way these things work - blame the people who abused the rules. By taking back control we can ensure that the EU isn't used to circumvent who we let stay in this country.
I'd have expected your investments to have recovered by now or are you over exposed to property?
Interesting polling on what kind of deal people want. Not much support for an EFTA arrangement, and most people think it wouldn't be honouring the referendum result; but it's still seen as more positive than a straight leave. A Canada-style outcome has the most support.
I wonder whether that will change as things progress?
I wonder whether that will change as things progress?
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Do you have any numbers on this rampant abuse?
Just asking as the current financial treshold for UK citizens wishing to be with their non-eu spouse in the UK means that around 40% of current UK citizens would be unable to fulfill the criteria and their only option would be to leave the country if they want to be with with their spouse. If this is fair surely as you say the rampant abuse must have been huge to necessitate an effective ban on UK citizens marrying whomever they please. Should the government not actually look at each case instead of giving an effective ban on whom you can marry? Surely if you've been together with your spouse for years before deciding to marry this should be acknowledged as a mitigating factor and if both parties have a job I don't see an issue?
As a Dane that has lived here for 11 years with an Indian spouse I cannot fathom how this is looked upon as fair?
One of my Scottish friends has just had to say goodbye to his Canadian wife as he's unfortunate enough to only earn £17500, at least he's moving to Canada now with his PhD degree to work in a medical firm so good for him!
On another note with brexit looming at least the UK government will avoid the future trial in the EU court of Justice resulting from them breaking EU law on the processing time for EEA family permits.
They'll be wholly accountable for the performance of this country - no more hiding behind the confusing EU structures and behind-closed-doors horse trading. E.g. if an Asian country was say, illegally dumping a load of commodity X on the market which was screwing over British producers of commodity X, the relevant minister would be accountable for the actions/inactions taken in parliament and not the EU.
It was reported the other day the City of London has given up on keeping access to the single market and will have to renegotiate individual deals...sort of like a "Swiss minus" deal
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/19/lond...es-up-on-full-access-to-eu-single-market.html
In what world is a limited free trade deal that excludes services a positive for Britain?
They're accountable for this now? What I'm getting at is what will change for johnloo.
Does he know which minister is relevant for overseeing this particular commodity market? Does he care? Or does he like the soundbite?
All this Sovereignty and Accountability is such guff.....brilliant in your idealised view of how it should work....but in reality, what is going to change....nothing. The majority of the public haven't even heard of most of the Cabinet, let alone can vote for their removal....since they can only vote for their own local politician.
What do you expect the population to do that is going to hold this minister to account?
Vote them out of office?
So how has this changed. Could you not vote MPs out of office before leaving the EU?
Well, only a small proportion of the population (his constituency) can do that, and if it's 1 issue from 4 years prior to the Election - who is going to remember or care?
Let's be honest about this, the majority of the voting public don't give 2 hoots about their candidate or their policies - they probably don't even know who they are
They Vote Red, Blue, Yellow, Green, Purple...
And with no credible opposition, an encumbant politician can do what the **** he likes and still keep his seat in a safe area
Precisely
rolleyes.
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Its seriously not, unless your anti London, and anti banker
EDIT, or completely clueless on the likely ramifications (sorry missed the most obvious cause)
I think those sorts would rather see us defending the shores with longbows and eating mud than have to "bow" to the EU
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rolleyes.
If you disagree with (for example) Merkles asylum policy - How do we 'vote her out'? Someone can call the shots for the whole of the EU and the member states can do nothing but go along with it.
Unless of course, you decide your own policy - meaning more accountability (less 'oh the EU told us to do that' excuses) for MP's here in the UK.
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You wont win this argument
Some people think that MPs are going to suddenly turn over a new leaf.
problem is that
1) there will be someone else with exactly the same thoughts to replace said MP if they dont turn over a new leaf (which they wont) and there will probably be no serious ramification should they not turn the leaf
2) as we know, many people will vote one colour or another without really undertanding anything about what they really stand for
3) selecting the government for probably a 5 year term means you have to pick the one whos policies you dislike the least and go with it eg if pro tory but annoyed at the result of the referendum would you vote green, of course not
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