Can a cisgendered actor play a trans character?

Its a fact that being trans is related to mental health though, its just not nice to point it out in such a fashion.
 
Is that a fact? How do we know until trans actors are cast in roles? If Orange Is The New Black can find a suitable trans actor, why can't the makers of this film? Surely someone who is trans has a better chance of successfully portraying a trans character?

These are the same excuses that have been used when passing over on black actors.


It is not about portraying a trans character exactly like a trans character but portraying a character as the director/writers see fit for the role. It is not an excuse, it is not a documentary. They felt he was best for the role due to his achievements, do you think a trans person would have fit the image that the director had better? ofc not or they would have picked one.

The character is trans but 'trans' is not the character. Actors play a character not a gender.

If they wanted just anyone that was trans to fill trans roles or white people to fill white roles, then they can hire amateur actors for next to nothing and save big production costs. Fact is that a gender or sexuality does not represent a character, the same way that a stereotype does not represent gender or sexuality.

In fact, the argument for casting just trans people for trans roles is contradictory to the argument against stereotyping them

'they should be more suited to the role, as they generally are more likely to act like a trans'

And

'Not all trans people are like xxx. It is just a gender and not representative of their personality or behaviour'
 
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It's hard to believe anyone defends anything about the status quo in the Bond series when it's been such a pile of **** for so long. The race of the lead is such a minor issue when set against the rest of its issues.
 
Its a fact that being trans is related to mental health though, its just not nice to point it out in such a fashion.

it's a fact pointing out Islamic terrorism is related to Islam though but it's against the rules to do that now it seems.
 
Idris Elba would make a great Bond imo.

even if he was white he'd be a terrible bond.

nothing like the type of character, bit too gritty but mostly too "supporting actor"/exposition character than a massive franchise lead.
 
even if he was white he'd be a terrible bond.

nothing like the type of character, bit too gritty but mostly too "supporting actor"/exposition character than a massive franchise lead.

I agree with the gritty part but not with the supporting actor part. I expect him to play a great lead role in the dark tower film.

TBH never saw the big deal with bond films. I know it really sold the idea of what a spy could be but that idea is now far from fresh and it seems that budget and good casting is all the films have from being mediocre these days.
 
The sheer amount of ignorance and prejudice in this thread is astounding.

Denigrating an entire section of society because you don't understand their plight is abhorrent.

Mods, I think this thread should be closed. It isn't even tasteful.
 
There is some ignorance but i dont see much prejudice, didnt bother reading the whole thread though. You are welcome to point out what you dont like about my posts and we can discuss it. If you wish to report them, there is a report button under the avatar or you can use the 'thread discussion' section of the forum
 
The sheer amount of ignorance and prejudice in this thread is astounding.

Denigrating an entire section of society because you don't understand their plight is abhorrent.

Mods, I think this thread should be closed. It isn't even tasteful.

Completely agree. Just because half the people in this thread don't think it's alright, doesn't mean it should be ignored.
 
OCuk on a cis male actor playing a trans woman character: It's called acting, get over it.

OCuk on a black actor possibly playing James Bond: James Bond is white! A black actor can't play James Bond! :mad::mad::mad:


The problem that trans people have with this is that it reinforces the false idea that a trans woman is just a man in a dress.


That's a pretty silly comparison really, the black actor was not going to be playing a white James Bond was he? It was changing the character that people didn't like. But sure IT'S RACIST!
 
The sheer amount of ignorance and prejudice in this thread is astounding.

Denigrating an entire section of society because you don't understand their plight is abhorrent.

Mods, I think this thread should be closed. It isn't even tasteful.

Not seeing any of this? :confused:
 
The sheer amount of ignorance and prejudice in this thread is astounding.

Denigrating an entire section of society because you don't understand their plight is abhorrent.

Mods, I think this thread should be closed. It isn't even tasteful.

I see this on articles all the time. As a gay man.... When I see articles on education and sexuality its a big thing to me. Then I see the comments of daily mail readers saying things like 'discustings teaching this in our school, perverts... Political correctness gone mad, why do they teach this perversion in our school's etc.

No one takes the time to speak to the actual children.... And lgbt children who get bullied on a daily basis. No one looks at the statistics of the lgbt children who commit suicide. Why education could be a benefit.

But of course, readers will think they are the experts, with no research taken.... And claim that it's not right to teach it. Most think teaching about lgbt is schools mean they teach how to stick a penis a man's you know what...... And that's when you get an angry mob.
 
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That's a pretty silly comparison really, the black actor was not going to be playing a white James Bond was he? It was changing the character that people didn't like. But sure IT'S RACIST!

How does the colour of the actor's skin change the character? People coped with James Bond having a series of accents from around the British Isles but go mad at the thought of his skin colour changing.
 
How does the colour of the actor's skin change the character? People coped with James Bond having a series of accents from around the British Isles but go mad at the thought of his skin colour changing.

It doesn't, it changes the image people have of that character. It is up to the casting director and writers to decide what image they should have and who to cast. No one elses. If they wanted to cast a dead cat as James bond, i would have no issue.... i just wouldn't see the film. It is up to the film makers on how they make the film and up to the market audience whether they go watch it.

This issue is a manufacture and selling of a product, nothing more. If people dont agree, then dont buy.
 
Gender identity is just the new fad imo.

I put people who use words like cisgender into the same group as self harmers/ emos/ etc.

People who want to be 'different'. Until over the generation it actually becomes quite trendy, then people find something new.

However the new fads have to get weirder and weirder to try and keep exclusivity.

/popcorn.gif
 
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