Given your opinions in other threads that the war mongering West should keep its nose out of foreign country affairs, I find it interesting that you feel we are placed to meddle in their laws on dress code.
Quite.
What are people's thoughts on the burkini ban in France?
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Given your opinions in other threads that the war mongering West should keep its nose out of foreign country affairs, I find it interesting that you feel we are placed to meddle in their laws on dress code.
Quite.
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No "double-standard" at all; we respect an individual's right to choose
" 64% per cent of people in France disapprove of the full body swimsuit while just 6 per cent voiced their support for it"
http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/20...opposee-au-port-du-burkini-sur-les-plages.php
I wonder when saudi will let non muslims wear what they like anywhere?
http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/20...opposee-au-port-du-burkini-sur-les-plages.php
I wonder when saudi will let non muslims wear what they like anywhere?
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Is there any other media outlet that supports that statistic?
One that is not always insulting Islam in its papers and has not been banned in several countries for it.
One that is not always insulting Islam in its papers and has not been banned in several countries for it.
64% of people in France.
I haven't read the link but... 64% of how many people? From where in France? Of what demographic? Etc etc.
It's hardly going to be 64% of all France now is it
however, I recognise that nationalist sentiment has grown in France and that no doubt a growing number of people will support this ban given recent events. Still doesn't make it right though.
I haven't read the link but... 64% of how many people? From where in France? Of what demographic? Etc etc.
It's hardly going to be 64% of all France now is it
however, I recognise that nationalist sentiment has grown in France and that no doubt a growing number of people will support this ban given recent events. Still doesn't make it right though.That about the same amount they use here.
Maybe France should do the same as Saudi and have private beaches where you have to get membership.
Then you can wear what you like. You can't wear what you like on Saudi public beaches.
I never said invade our headchopping friends to change their laws on dress.
I'm advocating there are/is more freedoms here.
You're still in denial of any practical application of clothing and still assuming its some sort of military or political insignia. Lol.
You say i dont understand what a symbol is yet The burkini isnt even embellished with any sort of symbol or logo whatsoever or any other symbol of islam
. You better come back to reality or else soon you'll be saying any sort of bodily covering is an islamic propoganda. You are choosing to associate, its all in your head.If someones wearing camo in public you think hes active military personnel or representing an army??
people like you are just horrible members of society always judging based on what the media has taught you. As i said it must be a horrible mental state to be in.Where on earth has the alphabet come into this? Does the alphabet now give women who dont want to show skin the confidence they need to be naked?
First you're comparing a practical item of clothing to crosses and now youve bought alphabetical characters into it? Some pretty weird 'in denial' philosophising going on when theres no need for it. (It's still interesting nonetheless)
Are you honestly confirming how petty you are? If i invent some combination of three items of everyday clothing, then launch a media campaign saying its called a nazikini and racists wear it, you will immediately start thinking anyone wearing those three items at the same time is a nazi?
I did say people are very succeptible to suggestion. You are at the extreme end of the scale lol. The only reason the burkini is even an issue is because you've been told so and you are doing what you've been told which is to stay in a state of division. As i said you need to stay realistic and come back to reality or else soon you'll be paranoid that any sort of bodily covering is an islamic propoganda and muslims waving islam in your face.
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What a lot of people seem to be missing is that this piece of clothing is intrinsically linked to a religious ideology. To compare it to a t-shirt leggings and swimming cap is misleading and dishonest.
You need to compare it to people dressing as nuns, priests or vicars to go to the beach. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that but to ignore this part of the argument (especially on purpose) doesn't help persuade those who are against it and just makes you look silly.
You need to compare it to people dressing as nuns, priests or vicars to go to the beach. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that but to ignore this part of the argument (especially on purpose) doesn't help persuade those who are against it and just makes you look silly.
What you've said here has no substance.
Ok it's just a normal piece of clothing accidently created like that with no ideology behind it....happy now?
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I don't think anyone's missing that at all. What the pro-ban people are missing is that in a free and open society people cannot be compelled not to wear (or wear) a particular item of clothing.
So what has linked it to a religious ideology apart from the media and someone else telling you it is?
Is it embellished with Islamic writing and symbols? Is it made out of recycled ISIS flags?
I'm not "comparing it to a t-shirt leggings and swimming cap" IT IS a t-shirt leggings and swimming cap. hahahaha
Absolutely dumbfounded at some people's mental states and susceptibility to suggestion.
The uniforms nuns, priests etc wear are historic, they weren't invented and trademarked and sold in M&S a few months ago.
And furthermore, Islamic imams don't even wear burkinis. 12 months ago if someone was covered up on a beach in said combination of clothing you wouldn't give two ****s. Now they've suddenly made it stand out a little with it's ridiculous styling, trademarked it and created a neurolinguistic buzzword "burkini" people start foaming at the mouth as soon as someone mentions burkini. It's simply another method for divide and conquer, wake up people.
And then there's the contradiction. People say it's oppressive and then you say these same women are somehow showing their support or allegiance to what is opressing them? How the heck does that work then? Deary me
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So you would agree that Saudi is even madder?
Hear Hear.
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Is christian person wearing this because of their religion= NO
Is a Jews person wearing these because of their religion=NO
Is a muslim wearing this because of their religion=YES.
See a pattern here people.
And I'm dumbfounded at some people's mental states saying this is not some religious clothing.
Firstly, that is far from a pattern. You have no idea what a pattern is lmao.
You're simply denying the fact that these women want to go to a beach and not show more than 5% skin. Which is the prime purpose of this combination of garments.
No one is shoving Islam in your face except the media lol. Because if someone was wearing this on a beach 12 months ago before any media hype and buzzword creation you wouldn't bat an eyelid.
Nuns and priests wear historic uniforms, not something cobbled together to hide skin on a beach. Comparing some ridiculous burkini to what nuns and priests have been wearing throughout history is pretty disgusting.
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I think private beaches would actually be quite a reasonable compromise at this moment in time.
I don't think nuns and vicars quite compare, after all they are members of the church/preachers/lecturers and "operatives" in God's name. A woman who wears a burkini or burka is not.
A burkini is not just religiously influenced but also culturally. The vicar and nun outfits are not... You don't casually slip on a nun outfit and pop out to town because your local culture influences you to. Blurred but subtle differences.
Needless to say, wearing a vicar, nun or burkini anywhere in the world should not be an issue for anyone and shouldn't raise any kind of discrimination against you, particularly in the free Western world!
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