New Member Needing Advise Please

Eas

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Hi

Needs some advise if possible please.

I am looking to upgrade my current desktop so it can play BF1 but also want some future proofing in there as well.

I am able to use a lot of the hardware I have but need to upgrade my Motherboard, CPU, Ram, Graphics card and Monitor so I am able to play BF1 in 1440p with an excellent FPS (144Hz would be ideal) with hopefully no graphics issues.

My budget is about £1300.

I have read up as much as I can on the latest hardware releases and have kind off decided that the following would be a good choice for the Mbrd, CPU and Ram but would like your opinions please.

MSI Z170A Gaming M7 Mbrd
Intel i7 6700K CPU
Kingston Savage (Black) 16gb 2400 Mhz Ram

The issue I have is I cannot decide on what Graphics card combo would be best bearing in mind this PC will be for gaming only.

Do I go for NVidia G-Sync setup, i.e. Graphics card (MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X maybe?) and G-Sync 1440p 144Mhz monitor (Dell S2716DG 27" 1440p maybe?)

or

Do I go for the AMD Free-Sync setup. Haven't looked at choices yet but would guess a Radeon RX480 would be the card choice

I hope you guys can offer some advise.

Thanks for your time.

Eas :)
 
Firstly, what is the spec of the old machine, just want to make sure your going to get the upgrade you hope your getting?
 
Hi and welcome to the forums :)

Your choices are good ones but an Nvidia/G-Sync setup such as the one you've suggested may push your budget, especially considering you'd need to budget in a CPU cooler too (the K series CPUs don't come with one). If you can stretch to Nvidia then that's the way I'd go.

I'm assuming you don't need case, storage or PSU? What PSU do you currently have?
 
I as long as your PSU and case are up to the task i think this is what meets your requirements (if a little over budget). We will need to check what you have though. What do you have?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,372.94
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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Roverno said:
Firstly, what is the spec of the old machine, just want to make sure your going to get the upgrade you hope your getting?
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Roverno, thanks for the response, other hardware is as follows...

OCZ ZX Series 1250w PSU
Samsung 128gb 850 Pro SSD HDD
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD
Arctic Rev 2.0 Pro 7 Freezer CPU Cooler
Zalman Z11 High Performance Full Height Case (with 6 x Enermax UCBT12 120mm fans)

Thanks again for your time.

Eas.
 
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Roverno said:
I as long as your PSU and case are up to the task i think this is what meets your requirements (if a little over budget). We will need to check what you have though. What do you have?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,372.94
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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Roverno

Thanks for the suggestions.

Couple of queries...

Although I can build a PC no problem I am always a bit fuzzy when it comes to the real techy stuff. I am sure I read a few years ago that future games, like BF1, are more GPU dependent rather than CPU dependent as it was for games years ago. That said you have suggested the Intel i5 6600K and the Zotac 1070 so would this mean high end FPS readings as well as near flawless monitor/game performance in BF1 with the future proofing I was hoping for ? I have read that i5 6600K in a Z170 Mbrd means the i5 6600K can be OC'd by a fair chunk, is this correct do you know ?

I am currently using Windows 7, is it best to go for Windows 8 or possibly 10 or stick with the OS I have ?

Sorry one lasy query, you advise getting the Kingston Fury C15 (C meaning Cas I guess). I suggested the Kingston Savage which was Cas12. Is there much a difference in the two ?

Thanks.

Eas.
 
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ExRayTed said:
Hi and welcome to the forums :)

Your choices are good ones but an Nvidia/G-Sync setup such as the one you've suggested may push your budget, especially considering you'd need to budget in a CPU cooler too (the K series CPUs don't come with one). If you can stretch to Nvidia then that's the way I'd go.

I'm assuming you don't need case, storage or PSU? What PSU do you currently have?
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ExRayTed

Thanks for the welcome and the information.

I have listed my other hardware detaiols above.

Thanks

Eas.
 
Hi

Great feedback and suggestions so far but can anyone else offer any advise please.

Just want to get a few opinions before I take the plunge.

Thanks.

Eas.
 
Eas said:
Roverno

Thanks for the suggestions.

Couple of queries...

Although I can build a PC no problem I am always a bit fuzzy when it comes to the real techy stuff. I am sure I read a few years ago that future games, like BF1, are more GPU dependent rather than CPU dependent as it was for games years ago. That said you have suggested the Intel i5 6600K and the Zotac 1070 so would this mean high end FPS readings as well as near flawless monitor/game performance in BF1 with the future proofing I was hoping for ? I have read that i5 6600K in a Z170 Mbrd means the i5 6600K can be OC'd by a fair chunk, is this correct do you know ?

I am currently using Windows 7, is it best to go for Windows 8 or possibly 10 or stick with the OS I have ?

Sorry one lasy query, you advise getting the Kingston Fury C15 (C meaning Cas I guess). I suggested the Kingston Savage which was Cas12. Is there much a difference in the two ?

Thanks.

Eas.
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Sorry for not getting back sooner.

What we call triple A games tend to be more GPU bound, such as Battlefield. Less mainstream games (although ironically more popular) can often be CPU bound. It really changes game by game and every developer will be different, but nearly all triple A games will be GPU bound. You need a good CPU for gaming anyway, it still has plenty to do on a GPU bound game. the i5 6600k is a good ground between performance and cost. the i7 6700k gets you hyperthreading, at a higher cost, but games often don't utilise it so it goes unnoticed. i3 is passable sometimes but you often drop two cores and many games are using 4 cores now. Future proofing isn't really a thing. nobody can predict the future and we all know tech is constantly being upgraded but its a very sensible purchase keeping possible future developments in mind.

Yes, you should have no trouble overclocking the CPU. Make sure you read about it first before you start. It's fairly simple but you need to understand that there are some risks, although minimal.

Don't bother with w8. If you already have w7 you should be able to transfer the license and it will save some money. Otherwise, yes, go for w10. Don't get some cheap license off an auction site or something like that. Get a proper copy from reputable source. You can download and put it on a USB and install that way if you dont have/want an optical drive. you can then use the license key you get in the box to activate.

Don't pay too much attention to Cas latency, its not important at this level. The values you want to consider are the capacity (like 2x4gb=8gb) and speed (like 2400MHz). The memory controller on the i5 will almost never go past 3000Mhz anyway, and even that is unlikely. 2666Mhz is possible but 2400 can be had for a bit less and the performance difference should be negligible. 8gb capacity is passable but 16gb is not a lot more and if you ever reach your 8gb limit you'll wish you had paid the extra for 16gb.

Hope that help :)
 
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Solid advise from Roverno, nothing more to add really. That CPU, GPU and monitor combo is what I have and its fantastic, super high fps at max settings 1440p, as well as G Sync smoothing out the frames, it looks lovely.

Just make sure you get a good ICC profile set up to get the most out of the monitor in terms of colours, contrast, brightness etc, you can find one on TFT Central.
 
Daaaveee said:
Solid advise from Roverno, nothing more to add really. That CPU, GPU and monitor combo is what I have and its fantastic, super high fps at max settings 1440p, as well as G Sync smoothing out the frames, it looks lovely.

Just make sure you get a good ICC profile set up to get the most out of the monitor in terms of colours, contrast, brightness etc, you can find one on TFT Central.
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Thanks Daaaveee

Never heard of ICC profiling before so looks like I have some reading to do.

Thanks again :)
 
6700k will barely help at all with frame rate compared to 6600k when both overclocked sensibly.

you dont need to hit 144Hz, thats the point of G-sync.
 
Roverno said:
6700k will barely help at all with frame rate compared to 6600k when both overclocked sensibly.

you dont need to hit 144Hz, thats the point of G-sync.
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Agreed on both, 144hz is great when you do hit it of course, but with G Sync in my eyes over 80-90fps feels really smooth anyway so no need to try and hit 144 locked like you would want to with 60hz.
 
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