Does this makes sense to you?

Johno please? said:
Because they're not all like that maybe? Just like how not all muslims are suicidal murderers. (despite the fact theres an attack by a muslim almost every week somewhere in the world)

Also i've seen plenty of bodycam footage where the person pulled over/confronted has escalated the situation in seconds and produced a gun from seemingly no where.

They're in a difficult situation these cops, but I do agree, they are too quick to pull the trigger sometimes.
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ok that's fair not all cops are "trigger happy psychopaths" though why do you have a system that allows trigger happy psychopaths to appear through the cracks.

regarding your second point that's they have non-lethal weapons like a taser or bean bag gun to take down the suspect without killing even if they have to shot with the amount of training they should/have done they can take aim for the torso (arms and legs) or even the gun if the person is holding one.

 
ThestigGT999 said:
ok that's fair not all cops are "trigger happy psychopaths" though why do you have a system that allows trigger happy psychopaths to appear through the cracks.

regarding your second point that's they have non-lethal weapons like a taser or bean bag gun to take down the suspect without killing even if they have to shot with the amount of training they should/have done they can take aim for the torso (arms and legs) or even the gun if the person is holding one.

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ThestigGT999 said:
ok that's fair not all cops are "trigger happy psychopaths" though why do you have a system that allows trigger happy psychopaths to appear through the cracks.

regarding your second point that's they have non-lethal weapons like a taser or bean bag gun to take down the suspect without killing even if they have to shot with the amount of training they should/have done they can take aim for the torso (arms and legs) or even the gun if the person is holding one.
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The purpose of using lethal force is to immediately stop a threat; aiming at arms, legs or weapons does not achieve that.
 
Johno please? said:
Because tasers and arm/leg shots do not always stop the threat, have you not seen the footage of the guy drawing on a cop after being pulled over, they exchange fire, the suspect gets hit I think twice in the chest.... gets back in his car, drives a mile before dying.

Adrenaline is a powerful drug.
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that's what I don't get taser don't work but in some cases they do too much and can kill
 
ThestigGT999 said:
they have non-lethal weapons like a taser
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Less-lethal, they can still kill. Also, if the suspect has a gun, a taser is a very stupid choice of weapon.

ThestigGT999 said:
regarding your second point that's they have non-lethal weapons like a taser or bean bag gun to take down the suspect without killing even if they have to shot with the amount of training they should/have done they can take aim for the torso (arms and legs) or even the gun if the person is holding one.
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Oh another person who's watched too many movies. British police don't aim for legs either, they aim for center mass, it's standard procedure for all law enforcement, regardless of country. Aiming for a small part of the body is not always possible when the adrenaline is flowing, the officer may miss, or the target may not be neutralised by it.
 
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TheVoice said:
The purpose of using lethal force is to immediately stop a threat; aiming at arms, legs or weapons does not achieve that.
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stop a threat in cases where a threat doesn't exist like in this case (Terence Crutcher shooting)

Longbow said:
Less-lethal, they can still kill. Also, if the suspect has a gun, a taser is a very stupid choice of weapon.



Oh another person who's watched too many movies. British police don't aim for legs either, they aim for center mass, it's standard procedure for all law enforcement, regardless of country. Aiming for a small part of the body is not always possible when the adrenaline is flowing, the officer may miss, or the target may not be neutralised by it.
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as ray lewis and sharpton said in the video shot to kill

they shot him but didn't react when he dropped for 2-3 minutes ended up dying in hospital

explain that?
 
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ThestigGT999 said:
stop a threat in cases where a threat doesn't exist like in this case (Terence Crutcher shooting)
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Terence Crutcher was being erratic and uncooperative.

He was also manoeuvring himself so as to hide his hands and whatever he was doing with them.

He was also returning to his vehicle and making as if to get something out of it.

If you wait until the point that the suspect actually points the gun at you, you are already dead. At what point in all this would you shoot first?

(Yes, somebody should have tasererd him much earlier. I would have tasered him the moment it was clear he wasn't behaving rationally, but that is another scenario. I do not know why this wasn't done sooner.)
 
Johno please? said:
Because tasers and arm/leg shots do not always stop the threat, have you not seen the footage of the guy drawing on a cop after being pulled over, they exchange fire, the suspect gets hit I think twice in the chest.... gets back in his car, drives a mile before dying.

Adrenaline is a powerful drug.
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I think I know the clip you are talking about.

The surprising thing is...

A) The Cop didn't shoot first (there were plenty of warning signs)

B) Nobody ever managed to explain why the guy tried to kill the Cop! It was really just totally random lunacy! :confused:
 
ThestigGT999 said:
which goes back to the trigger happy cop notion, when cop A gets triggered in a situation he/she pulls out his/her gun and shots as he/she "Perceived a threat".

:rolleyes:
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But how much of that is as a result of their training? You can't blame it solely on trigger-happy individuals when the same types of incidents keep happening across the country.
 
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