Mazda Mps 6. What do I need to know?

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Right so after my thread about supercharging and how it's a waste of money. I looked around the interwebs and thought what could I get for £4k that didn't need huge amount of money throwing at it to get me close to 300bhp. Along came this car, so what do I need to know?

From reading the web:

06 cars have the cheaper tax.
Timing chain can rattle
Vvti issues
Some aircon pipe issues

See for the package it offers 260bhp, awd, decent options I feel as the prices are relatively low and people just want to give them away, I have seen some with 70k sell for under £3k. I thought I'd enquire here first as always and see what some of you have to say. At the moment it's just a thought and my car isn't going anywhere. But if I could pick one up for relatively cheap I wouldn't mind scratching the turbo is for a few months.
 
you probably already got this but its the pre april 06 ones that are cheaper tax. i.e only the very first 06 plates, and 55 plates etc.

i looked at them a year or so ago. they have a few issues but yes people have taken them to 300ish relatively cheap. a 01-05 bug or blob wrx will also be able to push 300hp very cheaply as everyone mods them. also consider the volvo s40 2.5 if you dont care so much about looks :p
 
Clarkey said:
300hp isn't going to make you into a 1/4 mile monster, far from it.
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Not after 1/4 mile times, Clarkey. If anything I'd be upping my budget to let's say £35k and just buy a GTR.

I feel that they're very cheap for what they have to offer. I'm after a well rounded car that can achieve a 300bhp target. 300bhp because I feel it's a great figure for a car power wise.
 
Vita said:
300bhp because I feel it's a great figure for a car power wise.
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Surely it depends what the car is, what it weighs, what gearbox it has, how it delivers its power? Seems a bit pointless to set out to buy a car with a specific power output the primary attribute..
 
[TW]Fox;30064645 said:
Surely it depends what the car is, what it weighs, what gearbox it has, how it delivers its power? Seems a bit pointless to set out to buy a car with a specific power output the primary attribute..
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And this is why I have made a thread on this car and not let's say a Volvo s60r.
 
[TW]Fox;30064645 said:
Surely it depends what the car is
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Yeah...there's a big clue in the title :confused:


I had a good blast in a mates new Leon Cupra 290 and agree that ~300bhp in a 1400KG car felt properly rapid. Compared to just quick like say a 200bhp mk5 Golf GTI.


But the 6 MPS is 250+kg heavier so....

Best to go and drive one and see what you think.
 
[TW]Fox;30064792 said:
I'm talking about his desire for '300bhp' generally as if its some sort of magic number.
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Because when you tell someone how much power your car has, it's nicer when it starts with a 3 than a 2...
 
[TW]Fox;30064645 said:
Surely it depends what the car is, what it weighs, what gearbox it has, how it delivers its power? Seems a bit pointless to set out to buy a car with a specific power output the primary attribute..
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[TW]Fox;30064792 said:
I'm talking about his desire for '300bhp' generally as if its some sort of magic number.
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:confused: Did I imply that it was some sort of magic number?
 
3 (hundred), it's the magic number.

I can't help but think going from an e46 to a Mazda 6 will feel a little "low rent", regardless of performance.
 
Vita said:
:confused: Did I imply that it was some sort of magic number?
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Yes, you did:

Vita said:
I looked around the interwebs and thought what could I get for £4k that didn't need huge amount of money throwing at it to get me close to 300bhp
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You specifically looked for cars which you get to '300bhp'. Not 320bhp, not 280bhp, but 300bhp. It's clearly a magic number for you but I think by focusing on it you are probably missing the point somewhat.
 
I get it completely. 300 BHP in a "small" saloon type vehicle (A4 sort of size) os exactly where I'd want to be too, before considering it an actually fast car. Obviously how it delivers that power is also a big factor. 300 BHP through the front wheels only will likely be faster, once you get the traction, than in a 4wd chassis.

Mazda 6 could be a right bargain, like you say. They have a reputation of being pretty harsh on the fuel economy (not sure if as bad as the RX8 mind), but as such, they are cheaper than other motors out there with similar potential.

I can think of worse ways to scratch the itch, so I would have a good look at a few, at least.
 
[TW]Fox;30064886 said:
Yes, you did:



You specifically looked for cars which you get to '300bhp'. Not 320bhp, not 280bhp, but 300bhp. It's clearly a magic number for you but I think by focusing on it you are probably missing the point somewhat.
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I'm pretty sure he'd be cool with 280 or 320.

I'm thinking not 100, not 200 but around 300...

Anyways, I think the Mazda fits that quite well. Ive always had a soft spot for them personally and think they would be a relatively reliable & interesting choice for the money. Head to http://www.mpsowners.co.uk

Seems to be mainly for the 3 but some threads on the 6: http://www.mpsowners.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6143
American thread: http://forum.mazda6club.com/mazdasp...mps-noob-thread-summary-guide-new-owners.html

You've likely seen most of those already :)
 
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[TW]Fox;30064886 said:
Yes, you did:



You specifically looked for cars which you get to '300bhp'. Not 320bhp, not 280bhp, but 300bhp. It's clearly a magic number for you but I think by focusing on it you are probably missing the point somewhat.
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Ok I'll change the magic number to 301bhp.

xs2man said:
I get it completely. 300 BHP in a "small" saloon type vehicle (A4 sort of size) os exactly where I'd want to be too, before considering it an actually fast car. Obviously how it delivers that power is also a big factor. 300 BHP through the front wheels only will likely be faster, once you get the traction, than in a 4wd chassis.

Mazda 6 could be a right bargain, like you say. They have a reputation of being pretty harsh on the fuel economy (not sure if as bad as the RX8 mind), but as such, they are cheaper than other motors out there with similar potential.

I can think of worse ways to scratch the itch, so I would have a good look at a few, at least.
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Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately there aren't many for sale at the moment so I will have to probably wait for a good one to show up. I'm sure someone on these forums owned one at one point. I know the fuel economy is really poor but my e46 isn't any better to be fair.
 
Who cares?
He wants a car around 300 bhp or one that can happily reach it.

He found that the mazda 6 falls into that range and is cheap enough.

Why you tunneling on the 300 bhp fox???
 
Because he is going to end up buying something tatty or a bit crap because of this fixation on an arbitrary power level as if it means anything. With a budget of 4k whether it has 300bhp isn't nearly the most important attribute.

Personally with this budget it seems better to keep the 330i and keep saving as it just doesn't seem like it's going to buy a good upgrade.
 
Because why mention 300bhp? Why not something that can do 0-60 in say 5 seconds?

Power is relevant only to the vehicle that it's in.

A 300bhp hot-hatch is very different to a 300bhp pickup.

If one has a specific car in mind, why mention power as a variable - it isn't one.
 
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