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Have Graphics cards really got more expensive?

Let's not forget as the die shrink the cost to produce is higher.
Especially the first products, which need to pay for the investment which runs into billions.
Until we stabilise for 2 gens at 7nm do not expect cheap top of the range gpus or cpus.

Already just started at 14nm for AMD and next one is 7nm in 2018.
 
Panos said:
Let's not forget as the die shrink the cost to produce is higher.
Especially the first products, which need to pay for the investment which runs into billions.
Until we stabilise for 2 gens at 7nm do not expect cheap top of the range gpus or cpus.

Already just started at 14nm for AMD and next one is 7nm in 2018.
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Yes but not by that much. Though 7/10nm is going to be a bit of an ouch as just the design costs will double compared to 16nm never mind production.

I expected 16/14nm GPUs to cost a bit more - but they've pushed up prices and pulled specs down a tier compared to how they stacked up traditionally which is way beyond commensurate with increased costs an sadly there aren't a few people trying to justify it.
 
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Just to remind the kids in here...

It didn't start with Titan, marketing did, there's always, always been 'halo' products, they just weren't delivered the same.

Nvidia marketing just works...
 
yes.we have always had premium cards but the high end midrange now costs are much as old highend prices.

the scary thing is once this new threshold of pricing has been broken it just becomes acceptable.when in reality it should be the exact opposite.

weird thing is if people actually held of one or two months on the top end over priced stuff.it would go down.

what does that short period of time mean in the bigger scale of things.a lot cheaper prices.thing is in britain we are pretty easy moan and roll over.

thats why we have the prices.we just pay and take it in the ass :p
 
i think prices are coming down a bit now there is stock?
maybe not so much in the uk i duno

the 10-series should be good for laptop sales, maybe twice the speed in smaller size?
much more of a jump than desktop, they getting good reviews for that

the 7nm stuff whenever that comes could be rly great
 
Mei said:
i think prices are coming down a bit now there is stock?
maybe not so much in the uk i duno

the 10-series should be good for laptop sales, maybe twice the speed in smaller size?
much more of a jump than desktop, they getting good reviews for that

the 7nm stuff whenever that comes could be rly great
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Yup twice the performance and twice the price at least, it's good that you brought up laptop GPU's as they have literally doubled the price due to the new 10 series laptop GPU's.

So yep GPU prices have definitely gone up. Way way way up.

Oh well, I will just try and buy the lesser GPU's from now on. The GTX 1070 is a very nice card and set me back £350.

I had a GTX 1080 at launch but the price didn't sit well with me so passed it on. If I can stick to a budget of around £350 (Circa X70 performance level) then I'll be happy. The super rich can keep paying for Titans etc. Maybe I will pick a used one at some point xD
 
I miss my 8800 ultra but it wasn't that high when new

1 x XFX 8800 Ultra 768MB GDDR3 Dual DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E 127949 Warehouse Shipped Invoice Track £343.60 £343.60

That's what i paid and that was the best card out at the time.
 
Have Graphics cards really got more expensive?

Yes

£1099 for a cut down chip with a poor cooler and poor DX12 support is a total joke.

Even the drivers are bad but at least they are free, for now !!!
 
Boomstick777 said:
Yup twice the performance and twice the price at least, it's good that you brought up laptop GPU's as they have literally doubled the price due to the new 10 series laptop GPU's.

So yep GPU prices have definitely gone up. Way way way up.

Oh well, I will just try and buy the lesser GPU's from now on. The GTX 1070 is a very nice card and set me back £350.

I had a GTX 1080 at launch but the price didn't sit well with me so passed it on. If I can stick to a budget of around £350 (Circa X70 performance level) then I'll be happy. The super rich can keep paying for Titans etc. Maybe I will pick a used one at some point xD
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they cant be more expensive than them huge desktop 980 laptops? that you need robot arms or something lol

i think gaming laptops are becoming less stupid anyway...
 
leon4112 said:
I miss my 8800 ultra but it wasn't that high when new

1 x XFX 8800 Ultra 768MB GDDR3 Dual DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E 127949 Warehouse Shipped Invoice Track £343.60 £343.60

That's what i paid and that was the best card out at the time.
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Again when exchange rates were around two dollars and vat was 17.5% or 15% depending when you bought it.

AT current exchange rate and VAT that price you paid would be over £600 now. Add inflation and its even more.

So you are saying its fine to pay 1080 prices back then but not now?
 
Kaapstad said:
Have Graphics cards really got more expensive?

Yes

£1099 for a cut down chip with a poor cooler and poor DX12 support is a total joke.

Even the drivers are bad but at least they are free, for now !!!
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a proud titanp owner? >.<
you are paying because you dont want to wait you know this tho
is that right or not im no sure
i dont think they marketed it this time at gamers atleast?

4months later the ti with custom coolers?
 
Greebo said:
Again when exchange rates were around two dollars and vat was 17.5% or 15% depending when you bought it.

AT current exchange rate and VAT that price you paid would be over £600 now. Add inflation and its even more.

So you are saying its fine to pay 1080 prices back then but not now?
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Oh i would still pay £600 now for a card if i wanted one but it had to be a bit faster than the current 1080.
 
Mei said:
a proud titanp owner? >.<
you are paying because you dont want to wait you know this tho
is that right or not im no sure
i dont think they marketed it this time at gamers atleast?

4months later the ti with custom coolers?
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I really like the Pascal Titan, with waterblocks they are beasts.

To say a card is not marketed at gamers is an old marketing trick.:D

Not really a fan of Ti's with custom coolers as the Titan + Waterblock is a better solution. The only use I have got for air coolers is it is easy to swap cards around for testing.

As to pricing I stand by what I said earlier. Just because I use a brand of cards does not stop me criticizing them if they could do better.
 
haha yes he complain price but still buy!
i think its strange now nvidia has blurred the lines between server and gaming card
makes them easy to justify?
but there is always a price for people who hate waiting or just NEED something
thats pretty normal
and yes he's still allowed to complain :P
 
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