Have Graphics cards really got more expensive?

[Kaapstad]

So you went and bought 4 of them

haha yes he complain price but still buy!
i think its strange now nvidia has blurred the lines between server and gaming card
makes them easy to justify?
but there is always a price for people who hate waiting or just NEED something
thats pretty normal
and yes he's still allowed to complain

When the price is not going to change you still buy them even if you think it is expensive.

I think I did a lot better buying 4 Pascal Titans than people who spend the same amount of money smoking in a year.

 

[Greebo]

When the price is not going to change you still buy them even if you think it is expensive.

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Agreed. Especially with the exchange rate heading where its going, 1080s will be alomst as much as I paid for my Titan and if they do release a 1080ti it will probably be as much!

 

[KillBoY_UK]

Again when exchange rates were around two dollars and vat was 17.5% or 15% depending when you bought it.

AT current exchange rate and VAT that price you paid would be over £600 now. Add inflation and its even more.

So you are saying its fine to pay 1080 prices back then but not now?

Don't forget inflation

 

[Greebo]

Don't forget inflation

I know. I really dont think we would be having these conversations if we still had the old exchange rate and VAT.

The whole range would be under £350, 1070s would be dirt cheap. 480s and 1060s would be under £140.

Hell even the silly TitanX Pascal would only be £575 inc VAT

 

[Disco_P]

You only have to compare the launch prices of custom 1080s to their price now to feel a little bit bad for everyone who wants one now.

All of them have gone up by £50-£60.

 

[Mei]

When the price is not going to change you still buy them even if you think it is expensive.

I think I did a lot better buying 4 Pascal Titans than people who spend the same amount of money smoking in a year.

i would need to be smoking something to buy 4 of them but ye enjoy! hehe <3

not sure titans should even be in the debate if cards are getting more expensive, can you even buy them most places? i havent seen them in many shops
unless some people think that titan should have been the 1080 which is a bit silly

 

[Panos]

Have Graphics cards really got more expensive?

Yes

£1099 for a cut down chip with a poor cooler and poor DX12 support is a total joke.

Even the drivers are bad but at least they are free, for now !!!

Amen.
That 20-22% perf drop on DX12 compared to DX11 is very annoying with the NVidia Pascal cards.

While NV drivers are CRAP. TOTAL UTTERLY CRAP. The 144hz flickering & artefacts on desktop is there since May. Only 1 driver didn't had it. So we are forced to switch to 120hz or restart the monitor few times.

And since 370.70 the 3D Mark benchmarks scores went down, not up.
Maturing drivers will improve performance after that....... yeah that is true for AMD cards only.

 

[Rroff]

Amen.
That 20-22% perf drop on DX12 compared to DX11 is very annoying with the NVidia Pascal cards.

While NV drivers are CRAP. TOTAL UTTERLY CRAP. The 144hz flickering & artefacts on desktop is there since May. Only 1 driver didn't had it. So we are forced to switch to 120hz or restart the monitor few times.

And since 370.70 the 3D Mark benchmarks scores went down, not up.
Maturing drivers will improve performance after that....... yeah that is true for AMD cards only.

No idea what is going on on your end - I've had zero issues with 144Hz on the desktop with any of my cards including the 1070 though 372.70 seems to be the best driver lately for me so far I've had no significant performance decreases in anything that I play including 3D Marks either. I'm running a bunch of systems over a spread of generations of cards and OSes without any significant issues to speak of though not tried the combination of Windows 10 and the 1070 (my gaming PC is still on 7).

 

[P.B]

I miss my 8800 ultra but it wasn't that high when new

1 x XFX 8800 Ultra 768MB GDDR3 Dual DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E 127949 Warehouse Shipped Invoice Track £343.60 £343.60

That's what i paid and that was the best card out at the time.

epic card

 

[Bonjour]

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WHY SO BIG!

That's what she said.

 

[Panos]

No idea what is going on on your end - I've had zero issues with 144Hz on the desktop with any of my cards including the 1070 though 372.70 seems to be the best driver lately for me so far I've had no significant performance decreases in anything that I play including 3D Marks either. I'm running a bunch of systems over a spread of generations of cards and OSes without any significant issues to speak of though not tried the combination of Windows 10 and the 1070 (my gaming PC is still on 7).

A visit to the official forum you will understand how big the 144hz issue is.

@Nvidia

 

[straxusii]

Graphics cards are more expensive now because there is no competition.

Back in the day Nvidia launched the 480, a gimped version of the full 512 core part, for £450 because the 5870 existed.

Fast forward to today and they are launching their gimped version of the full core part for £1100 because there is no competition.


Same comparison 680 vs 1080, both exactly the same proposition for their gen but the 680 was ~£420 because of the 7970, no competition this time around so it's £620+

 

[Rroff]

A visit to the official forum you will understand how big the 144hz issue is.

@Nvidia

You aren't using optimal power management are you on the GPU? I've always found the adaptive setting works better.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Graphics cards are more expensive now because there is no competition.

Back in the day Nvidia launched the 480, a gimped version of the full 512 core part, for £450 because the 5870 existed.

Fast forward to today and they are launching their gimped version of the full core part for £1100 because there is no competition.


Same comparison 680 vs 1080, both exactly the same proposition for their gen but the 680 was ~£420 because of the 7970, no competition this time around so it's £620+

While partially true i feel it's more down to the amount of people willing to pay stupid amounts of money for these cards. After all if nobody was buying them then the price would not be so high. The 290x was really good competition to the Titan and Titan Black and those cards stayed at £800. It's not like the 980ti/Fury X are so far behind Titan X (Maxwell) but they still kept there price. Nvidia have engineered selling there 3rd fastest chip for £600 here in the form of the gp104 with the gp102 and gp100 above it. It's genius but mainly down to blood thirsty performance hunters paying the price. If Vega was out i don't see prices for the likes of Titan dropping much if any as Nvidia see the Titan brand as in that price range and will keep it there.

 

[Dave2150]

Agreed. Especially with the exchange rate heading where its going, 1080s will be alomst as much as I paid for my Titan and if they do release a 1080ti it will probably be as much!

All Pascal cards, well the founders editions at least, are all the exact same price as they were on release day.

£619 for a 1080 FE
£399 for a 1070 FE

I doubt NVIDIA will raise the price unless the £ goes under £1 per $1, and if that happens most people will have much more than GPU's to worry about

 

[Greebo]

All Pascal cards, well the founders editions at least, are all the exact same price as they were on release day.

£619 for a 1080 FE
£399 for a 1070 FE

I doubt NVIDIA will raise the price unless the £ goes under £1 per $1, and if that happens most people will have much more than GPU's to worry about

Only because of stock. I don't think nvidia set a uk sterling price, just a dollar price so retailers can and will sell them for what they want in the uk. Therefore if the £ goes to parity the uk price will shift anyway.

Ignoring FE though, the AIB cards do shift constantly on sterling exchange.

 

[Toss3]

We have been here before. in general the top of the range card has gone up $50 to $100 over the years.

SOmetimes when there is stiff competition the prices of both AMD and Nvidia have been kept low.

Other times, the price increases a bit.

I think the 8800 Ultra was $829 and even the 8800GTX was $649 at launch.

Account for inflation it makes the current 1080 "cheap"

What has changed is that we dont get 2.5 dollars to the pound and we are heading for parity even and VAT used to be only 15% not 20%

The 1080GTX launched at $599 for the base card RRP. If we still had 2.5 dollars to the pound and 15% vat we would only be paying £275 for them. Nobody would be complaining about price.

The GTX 1080 isn't a full-featured card like the 8800 Ultra was so you should compare it to the Pascal Titan X, and the GTX 1080 to the 8800GTS (GTX 1080 Ti = 8800GTX). That means that in today's money $830 would be about $991.61 - and the Titan X Pascal is $1200.

 

[Bonjour]

Even the PTX is cut down.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Prices have gone up for sure, I am not sure that anything other than flagships have gone up higher than the rate of inflation though.

 

[dits]

I dare you peeps to go out and buy Titan Pascal if u think cards aren't expensive compared to before