WW3- what do you think?

The big nations are too grown up to do it now, i doubt even putin's mad enough to push the armageddon button.
No Putin isn't daft enough, but clearly the US government still believes it can win with a first strike though, so I wouldn't put it past them at all.
Why else would the US surround Russia, Iran and china with military bases.
 
No Putin isn't daft enough, but clearly the US government still believes it can win with a first strike though, so I wouldn't put it past them at all.
Why else would the US surround Russia, Iran and china with military bases.

I don't think it is really about daft enough or not - the Russian upper hierarchy seem to be convinced that the US is slowly surrounding them with the aim of starving Russia out - there is potential there for them to be convinced its a lose-lose situation and strike first - which at face value increasingly their rhetoric is sounding like though it might just be for manipulation.
 
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I'm pretty convinced that WW3 will happen, but not because of politics.

I think it will be down to resources running out (oil in particular) & whoever is prepared to fight for them.
 
I'm pretty convinced that WW3 will happen, but not because of politics.

I think it will be down to resources running out (oil in particular) & whoever is prepared to fight for them.

I agree. As the worlds population grows ever bigger we'll reach a tipping point where the battle for limited resources could trigger WW3. But I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, at least I hope not.

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Another reason I dislike Putin is the fact he's basically changed things so he's going to be Russian president perpetually. Eventually people will want a change, whether it's some other megalomaniac who wants the throne or folks who want a proper democracy. The why is largely irrelevant. Neither will happen without bloodshed unless a miracle happens. What happens if Russia collapses in on itself (where the west, as usual, will be seen as the instigators)?

Happens in all countries with a single leader who refuses to stand down after a couple terms. Just looks at Syria, Libya, Iraq etc! None of those conflicts would have come to pass had the head of the country changed every 8 years or so. Each change opens the door to diplomatic and political change. You simply can't do business with a Hitler.

Say what you will about western democracy. It has flaws but it does engender a more stable country. Just have to look at the bitterness between democrats and republicans in the US. Can you imagine what would happen if one side took control and kept it with the same leader for 20+ years? Civil war!
 
Another reason I dislike Putin is the fact he's basically changed things so he's going to be Russian president perpetually. Eventually people will want a change, whether it's some other megalomaniac who wants the throne or folks who want a proper democracy. The why is largely irrelevant. Neither will happen without bloodshed unless a miracle happens. What happens if Russia collapses in on itself (where the west, as usual, will be seen as the instigators)?

Happens in all countries with a single leader who refuses to stand down after a couple terms. Just looks at Syria, Libya, Iraq etc! None of those conflicts would have come to pass had the head of the country changed every 8 years or so. Each change opens the door to diplomatic and political change. You simply can't do business with a Hitler.

Say what you will about western democracy. It has flaws but it does engender a more stable country. Just have to look at the bitterness between democrats and republicans in the US. Can you imagine what would happen if one side took control and kept it with the same leader for 20+ years? Civil war!

:rolleyes: Never have I seen a post with such hogwash and misinformation - allow me to educate you.

Syria, Lybia, Iraq elected to stop using the US dollar in attempt to break free of the Rothschilds international banking grip - i.e. the way the USA owns the world through money (Putin has also told Rothschilds to go **** themselves - hence the now massive sanctions placed on Russia - at the moment that is all the USA will do as it would dare not attack Russia, it had no issue invading the little guys though)

Yeah sure we hear all the bad things in the media about those old leaders in those countries, and indeed they were almost certainly evil people, but no more evil than those in power in the western world --- also if you think democracy is real, hahahahahaha - no its not, in anyway, its all about giving the illusion of power to the population - trust me, the powerful families of the world, run the world.

Also in Lybia you used to get free health care - houses bought for new couples, if you were out of work the state paid you the equivilient wage for your area of work etc..........it also had massive gold reserves to back up its economy - hence why they didnt want to be paying tax to Rothschild - there is information as well it wanted to start an African wide gold backed economy and currrency which would rival US $ and Euro - all gold back currecy as well - as this goes against Rothschild and his pals - they got invaded, killed and the countries gold reserves are now in the USA.

The more you know hey.
 
Personally, I think there won't be a WWIII but more of an outbreak of public stupidness, riots etc. All protesting for the sake of protesting.

Further to that, the east keep sitting back relaxing reaping rewards from their oils and industry meanwhile we deal with the beheading bafoons.

Something will give, but ultimately, nothing more than an outbreak. People are dumb and bored at the moment, looking for an excuse to cause havoc. Take what BLM has become. It's lost all meaning and is simply an excuse for people to cause havoc...

Remember the idiots chaining them selfs to some wooden poles at London airport (or was it Luton?) because black people were more susceptible by 40% to breaking in toxic fumes than their white counterparts living in the same area. Absolute ****ing joke the lot of them.

Or the ever growing stupidness that is 'extreme feminism', like BLM, feminism is really losing it's true meaning and being thrown around by trigglypuffs claiming men are all pigs and mysoginistic blah blah blah. Oh, and only white men as any other race are the minority.

"I need feminism because when am man looks at me I feel violated"... Are you serious? Do everyone a favour and top your self. And quickly.

Then you have the absurd movements of gender wars!!!! Seriously????? "Babies have no gender, until they are old enough to decide".. WHAT???

People, people are dumb and I want off this rock.
 
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:rolleyes: Never have I seen a post with such hogwash and misinformation - allow me to educate you.

Syria, Lybia, Iraq elected to stop using the US dollar in attempt to break free of the Rothschilds international banking grip - i.e. the way the USA owns the world through money (Putin has also told Rothschilds to go **** themselves - hence the now massive sanctions placed on Russia - at the moment that is all the USA will do as it would dare not attack Russia, it had no issue invading the little guys though)

Yeah sure we hear all the bad things in the media about those old leaders in those countries, and indeed they were almost certainly evil people, but no more evil than those in power in the western world --- also if you think democracy is real, hahahahahaha - no its not, in anyway, its all about giving the illusion of power to the population - trust me, the powerful families of the world, run the world.

Also in Lybia you used to get free health care - houses bought for new couples, if you were out of work the state paid you the equivilient wage for your area of work etc..........it also had massive gold reserves to back up its economy - hence why they didnt want to be paying tax to Rothschild - there is information as well it wanted to start an African wide gold backed economy and currrency which would rival US $ and Euro - all gold back currecy as well - as this goes against Rothschild and his pals - they got invaded, killed and the countries gold reserves are now in the USA.

The more you know hey.

Oh my, you don't think if that was for a second true then they'd have used something like Lockerbie as a pretext for invading Libya? What trite. The US wanted nothing to do with Libya in the first days of the arab spring, it was a joint French/British enterprise.

The sanctions are directly linked to Russia's actions in Ukraine. End of. You're giving waaaay to much credit to your James Bond like super villains for masterminding all these world events.

More to the point I was talking about dictators and holding onto power too long. If my post is complete hogwash I take it you're therefore in favour of dictatorships and a single leader staying in power? But then you think we live in one so I think you may be a bit confused.

Also, our leaders just as evil? When was the last time you saw a western country bomb it's own populations after they became fed up with the same leader staying in power, the mass corruption and complete loss of civil liberties? When that starts happening then maybe I'll let you 'educate' me.
 
Oh my, you don't think if that was for a second true then they'd have used something like Lockerbie as a pretext for invading Libya? What trite. The US wanted nothing to do with Libya in the first days of the arab spring, it was a joint French/British enterprise.

The sanctions are directly linked to Russia's actions in Ukraine. End of. You're giving waaaay to much credit to your James Bond like super villains for masterminding all these world events.

More to the point I was talking about dictators and holding onto power too long. If my post is complete hogwash I take it you're therefore in favour of dictatorships and a single leader staying in power? But then you think we live in one so I think you may be a bit confused.

Also, our leaders just as evil? When was the last time you saw a western country bomb it's own populations after they became fed up with the same leader staying in power, the mass corruption and complete loss of civil liberties? When that starts happening then maybe I'll let you 'educate' me.

What on Earth........

Who do you think has killed billions of innocent lives in the past 10,15,20,30 years? Western countries !!! Why do you think were the good guys ? lol

Our leaders are puppets - they are told what to do by Rothshild et al, democracy is an illusion. I guess if your living in the bubble you won't see this.

You can trace all world actions by western countries back to gold, money and oil, hell, Saddam Hussain was placed in charge of Iraq by the CIA (tons evidence for this), 40 years later they wanted him dead, so it happened.........regime change in the usa went through 10 presidents but it didnt change the long run masterplan.
 
What on Earth........

Who do you think has killed billions of innocent lives in the past 10,15,20,30 years? Western countries !!! Why do you think were the good guys ? lol

Our leaders are puppets - they are told what to do by Rothshild et al, democracy is an illusion. I guess if your living in the bubble you won't see this.

You can trace all world actions by western countries back to gold, money and oil, hell, Saddam Hussain was placed in charge of Iraq by the CIA (tons evidence for this), 40 years later they wanted him dead, so it happened.........regime change in the usa went through 10 presidents but it didnt change the long run masterplan.

You do know who started the whole Rothschild control the world nonsense? The Nazis to stoke up anti-Jewish sentiment.

No where did I state the West is the 'good guys' simply because the world isn't black and white. Countries look after their interests.

Western nations have killed billions? Hyperbole much?
So each US president or leader of any country on the day they're elected get a call from a Rothschild to tell them what's what?

You also never answered the question. Would you be happy to live in one of these paradise dictatorships where every newlywed couple were given a new house? I have friends who did business there btw, a lot of it was a dump - influential people were ok, everyone else stomped on and treated like crap.
Would you be happy that if you dissented in any way (like, for instance saying western governments are the source of all evil) you'd be severely punished or simply disappear?

I don't lay claim to western countries being virtuous by any means but this weird self loathing is odd. Particularly when other countries are actively doing what they seem to despise western countries for and yet... praise them for it! Hypocrisy really.
 
If there's a nuke heading for the UK, I'm getting in the car along with the family and driving straight towards it. I don't want to live in the world that will exist after.
 
I doubt there would be much in the way of warning - you probably don't have too much to worry though if you are around Wargrave as I suspect there won't be much left of that area in a theoretical full on nuclear exchange.
 
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