2160p @ Medium or 1080p @ Max

[DarkMatter]

After purchasing my 1070 I've had another round of trials with 4k using DSR.

I thought it might be interesting to see peoples opinions of



2160p @ Medium with no AA
vs.
1080p @ Max with FXAA



*If its possible to add a voting button at the top that would be great*

 

[beany_bot]

I've often wondered this myself. What looks better. I did ask before and got a 50/50 response. Some swear the 4K looks better. Some swear the 1080 with all bells and whistles looks better.
Im thinking it will be down to the game. The better optimised the game the better it will looks at 1080 with all the toys enabled. Something like GTAV for example.
whereas something with little to no post processing and FX like RUST will defo look better in 4K.

 

[DarkMatter]

From my trials last night. I was amazed at how good ROTTR looked at medium, years ago it used to be medium gave you 60% of what the game could look like, now I would say its more 80+%. I suppose maybe they put more work in it with the xbox one and ps4 being approximately on medium?

All numbers are just my opinion with no real solid fact behind them. One of the driving forces behind it was trying to justify buying a 4k TV as it didn't seem much point if i could never drive it at 4k.

 

[Disco_P]

If you are talking about 4k via DSR then 1080p max will look better imo. I've never been impressed by dsr after I realised that most of it was placebo to me.

 

[VincentHanna]

If you were comparing screens, then probably 2160p/medium would be better.

As you are comparing DSR, 1080p max - No contest really.

You can't magically make a 1080p image better. All down-sampling can really do is help with aliasing.

 

[beany_bot]

If you are talking about 4k via DSR then 1080p max will look better imo. I've never been impressed by dsr after I realised that most of it was placebo to me.

Yeah DSR is way over rated. The difference is so ludicrously slight. Especially compared to how taxing it is on the GPU. I didnt see his comment about DSR. Dont use DSR unless for some reason you find yourself with 2x Titans and only a 1080p monitor. Even then its fairly pointless.

 

[DarkMatter]

Have to save up for a 4k Screen, I always knew that native 4k>>>>> 4kDSR on 1080p screen.

The main thing I used it for is performance testing as it should(?) give the same performance as if it was being displayed on a 4k screen.

 

[psychas]

how about 1440 at high/max

 

[beany_bot]

Have to save up for a 4k Screen, I always knew that native 4k>>>>> 4kDSR on 1080p screen.

The main thing I used it for is performance testing as it should(?) give the same performance as if it was being displayed on a 4k screen.

Yes, exact same performance. Except I assume the input lag will be ever so slightly increased with DSR as the monitor has to work to scale it back down?

 

[beany_bot]

how about 1440 at high/max

Will look worse than 1080p for sure as its not properly scalable. Will look slightly blurry. I would avoid that. You can test it quickly and easily on a youtube 4k video. trying out 1440p and 4k on your 1080p monitor.

 

[r7slayer]

Yes, exact same performance. Except I assume the input lag will be ever so slightly increased with DSR as the monitor has to work to scale it back down?

I would assume so as all it does is render the game at 4k res but then just downscales it to 1080p. You will loose some of the 4k goodness because well your looking at 4k @ 1080p lol. But should be pretty dam close performance wise.

I always seem to see a slight blur too when using DSR.

 

[~>Dg<~]

Yeah DSR is way over rated. The difference is so ludicrously slight. Especially compared to how taxing it is on the GPU. I didnt see his comment about DSR. Dont use DSR unless for some reason you find yourself with 2x Titans and only a 1080p monitor. Even then its fairly pointless.

no dont agree DSR if done right can be very good.just getting it right and the performance hit is the issue.

 

[triss]

I've been debating a similar idea myself . Trying to decide if i go upto 1440p for my next screen or just go 4k and be done with it and run reduced settings.
Was my understanding if i do have to for some reason run something at 1080p (say that fancy new game tha pushs gpus to the limit) its nicer doing it on a 4k screen then a 1440p screen due to scaling. Or is that incorrect?

 

[DarkMatter]

I personally found that Heroes of the storm the game looked better via 2160p DSR than 1080p with AA. Both at 60FPS cap.

the difference is not huge but then again looking through the performance guides on NVidia the difference between a lot of settings is very small in terms of what you see on the screen.

 

[DarkMatter]

I've been debating a similar idea myself . Trying to decide if i go upto 1440p for my next screen or just go 4k and be done with it and run reduced settings.
Was my understanding if i do have to for some reason run something at 1080p (say that fancy new game tha pushs gpus to the limit) its nicer doing it on a 4k screen then a 1440p screen due to scaling. Or is that incorrect?

2160p screens play nicely with 1080p images due to each being 4. In comparison 1440p is like 1.7x as many dots so the scaling is much more complex. I would probably try and find some even multiple of 1440p to give the best imagine quality if i couldn't run 1440p on a native 1440p monitor.

 

[Curlyriff]

Well I am thinking about dropping back from 4k to 1440p tbh because I think games look better on Max settings with all the bells and whistles than the 4k monitor does at this time.

There is still a lack of truly detailed 4k textures, modelling etc compared to what it could be. Once we get movie CGI graphics for games then I can see increasing resolution being the way forward. HDR is actually probably something more to consider. Now if you have a TV/Monitor that does this at 1440p then that would give the best image currently I feel.

Edit: With G-sync/Freesync as applicable.

Ultimate monitor right now would be a 1440p, HDR 12-Bit QLED (look up QLED for info) or OLED depending on how it's doing in a year or two. With 240Hz and Freesync & G-sync support in 32" is what I would love to see for my monitor. No speakers needed in the monitor as either sound system or headphones. This would have course as time goes on then increase in resolution as GPU's become powerful enough to run the above first.

 

[Griffyn]

I am still very happy with 4k and low to no AA to keep Very High settings as at 4K AA isn't as noticeable as on a 1080P screen. I can't think of a single game I have played that I had to go to medium on to get it to run, but I am also happy with 60 FPS which a lot of people say makes their eyes fall out on here . I haven't played many releases this year however as still got a huge back log.

If I do need to drop the res I would use my 2nd monitor which is 1440P rather than drop my 4K to 1080P.

 

[RanxZy]

2160p screens play nicely with 1080p images due to each being 4. In comparison 1440p is like 1.7x as many dots so the scaling is much more complex. I would probably try and find some even multiple of 1440p to give the best imagine quality if i couldn't run 1440p on a native 1440p monitor.

Recently got a Ultra HD Samsung TV, the KU6400 model and I cannot believe how well it upscales 1440p. Handy when 2160p is too demanding. It makes no sense as 1080p should be ideal because 1080p x 4 is 2160p. On the monitors I've had, anything lower than native resolution looks crud.

 

[nashathedog]

I run my games at 1440p thru vsr on a 1080p monitor and it does make an improvement, Not a big one but half the settings in the main menu don't either so just treat it as another setting to slightly tweak things when possible.

IMO when running ROTTR going from high to very high textures has less of an effect visually than going from 1080p to 1440p with vsr/dsr.

 

[oldestgregg]

Depend son size of monitor as well. 27inch is far too big for a 1080p monitor I found and 1440p is the lowest I would go at that res. I would go higher resolution at this point as 1080p dosnt do enough justice to some of the newer titles